The fact that Trump has already commented that he will "be back" as he was heading out the door will likely enter into the acquit/convict voting decisions of Senators during the impeachment trial. If the Senate votes to convict Trump by a 2/3 majority, they can then vote to disqualify him from holding a federal office in the future. The above screen shot is from the document in this link. Much of the focus in this document is related to whether the impeachment process can be extended to officials who are no longer in office. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10565
This is all true - but in a ‘normal’ election Dumbo Trumps votes would have been outstanding... His vote tally would have possibly even won most elections. In normal circumstances. Scary thought if my haphazard understanding happens to be accurate. Not that I am a JB fan either. Some of his words and actions are ‘odd’. Really odd... I also don’t like the idea of a third time lucky candidate for a President finally making the grade. I’d always like first time right tbh - if they were to shit to win the first two times but slightly better this time (against narcissist Trump) and finally won... Well, to me, it doesn’t seem the USA has taken the advantage of 331m people if it keeps giving the plebeians the same idiot person to elect each time - eventually they will win, even if it has to be against an idiotic, narcissistic, hallucinating numpty. We laugh at the Chinese dynasties handing down power but The USA unfortunately are the masters. what a mess
Personally, I think it should continue (trump impeachment) as any following president could then assume “sod it, I can do what I want as I’ve only got 2-3 weeks to go and, what are they going to do as there’s no time for the process to complete “ Just my 2 pence/cents!
You may be right about "Dumbo Trump" and the election under "normal circumstances". But to add an interesting twist, there have been numerous allegations over time of the Republican Party engaging in gerrymandering and voter suppression. I'm sort of making an assumption that you are alluding to mail in voting? If so, that option helped to bring out more voters than have ever voted in a U.S. Presidential previous to 2021. Why would we not want most--heck, all?--registered voters to vote? That would certainly be my preference. I predict that after figuring out how to get out the vote during a pandemic, providing voters with multiple voting options including early voting and mail in voting will become the norm. But perhaps you meant something else by "normal circumstances"! I wasn't particularly big on Biden initially but the more I've learned about him, the more confident I feel about his leadership capabilities, his experience and knowledge, and his ability to collaborate. I know enough about American politics to not really be that concerned that Biden has run without success previously. I think it's way more odd and concerning that a guy with absolutely zero political experience would be elected to be President as his first political office.
And then there's this. Uh oh for Mr. Trump.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aa194c-de85-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html
Hi Sandi T - oops I’ll leave politics alone next time... I hadn’t thought at all about the mail in vote... not sure I understand that. It was certainly not what I was talking about. My simplistic observation was that Trump, despite international ridicule over the last few years has (rightly/wrongly -others can decide) did really well at not blowing up the world, as he was spending his whole time tweeting his domestic/international spats. I only know what we see in press over here - it is possible they have a bias. my second half baked point was that BJ did better this year after losing twice - this is clearly true as he won this time. That was an amazing achievement given Trumps increase in voter numbers. Awesome. the electorate was possibly enthused and motivated this year to vote. In person or by mail. Passions where peaked. I am not making a judgement. But think more people wanted their voices heard. My comment about normal circumstances was a subtle point to the very diversive (as presented in our press) situation between republicans and democrats. There is always antagonism between parties but this time, it seems heightened. Maybe that isn’t the case. It seems like it to me. I think the sheer number of voters show they were more engaged this year. my final jokey quip was not a jibe at JB or the USA but at the ‘democratic process’ where-ever we are. How is it possible for a country to repeatedly submit the same person or family members of previous presidents/prime ministers and still claim they are the absolute best candidate. Maybe being a great politician is hereditary and not about who you know. How many great Presidents/prime minster could there have been if a more open selection process were used. Heck forget that question - that’s how we got Trump. Damn shot myself in the foot there... Although being a billionaire (or so he says) he has an advantage in the presidential race over say Doris the cleaner. Trump just proves however that you can make a numpty a president and ultimately the world keeps spinning. everyone’s a bit more scared, but it’s still spinning. As per tradition, the next president/prime minister cancels the actions of the last and equilibrium is maintained. I was not intending to offend. Sorry.
As for experience try this, back in the administration. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jo...-israel-arab-nations-without-the-palestinians
Ahhh, love your clarifications @Cyborgbot. And I agree with so many of your points in this post. I love that you said that a billionaire has an advantage over Doris the cleaner. What a great way to put it. And yes, Trump “claims” to be a billionaire. But still no tax returns released to know for sure. You’re right that the American electorate was very enthusiastic about voting this year and for most of us that was extremely exciting to see! There were people who did not choose to vote by mail who stood in line for eight or more hours to exercise their right to vote and have their voices heard. I do have to say, The President of the United States not blowing up the world because he is busy tweeting is a very, very low bar.
My motto here is “consider the source”. Have you looked into any other news sources in addition to Fox related to this point? With my news, as with the data I consider in my profession, I consider whether multiple sources of information and facts relating to the same issue or concern converge or diverge. Fox tends to be a “diverger”.
That's the most pathetic defense.. But that's probably the best his lawyer could suggest for this idiot.
Ha! Well, I hope Jake had "fun" while it lasted. I liked the visual the lawyer painted of Trump stirring the Kool-Aid.
Generally now a clenched fist is power to A people, rather than power to the people as originally used against oppression
One of my jobs is running the tech for a convention company, so we get actors from various tv shows and films, and put them on stage to talk about stuff and answer questions from the fans, do photo ops, autographs, meet and greets, etc. Some tv shows / genres attract a certain type of person - and because we create a safe space and they can be who they like without fear of being abused, a small minority of them think it is acceptable to behave to others in exactly the same way they feel they have been treated out in ‘the real world’ because they are in a protected environment. We get a disproportionate number of people with ‘health issues’ - so many times I have witnessed actual arguments between attendees in the smoking areas outside the hotels, over who is more mentally or physicallly broken. One time three of them were even comparing self-harming scars. Now, if sharing that kind of stuff helps them deal with whatever drives them to do that to themselves then that is good therapy, and while I don’t ‘get it’ and I really don’t pretend to wholly understand them, if we can create a space that allows them to get their shit together in a way they can’t elsewhere then that’s amazing. I guess in that case it is the same as when my brother and I share a bottle of whiskey and talk about shit which helps with PTSD as he was in some really shitty places at times. The majority of attendees are normal people who enjoy the tv shows, enjoy the weekend, and are just there to have a good time even if some are a little esoteric. Only a tiny minority actually cause issues, and I’ve met so many lovely people of all persuasions doing that job I can accept that the barnpots are just another part of it!
Thanks for the answer @GaleForceEight . I guess where you are working with the public you will see the best and the worst in society. I would like to think in a regular working environment when you are seeing the same people it is unlikely that you will see the extremes that you have highlighted.