What's the "for worse", Sprinter? The efforts to impeach Nixon included three articles which you can see in this from Wikipedia. Nixon was not impeached because he resigned before that could occur. I haven't read anything about Ford's explanation of why he pardoned Nixon or if he even publicly stated his reasoning. Trump was impeached for a second time by the House of Representatives, this time for a single impeachable offense, incitement of insurrection. Not to excuse Nixon (or pardon him, if you will), I don't view Nixon's high crimes and misdemeanors as worse than incitement of insurrection. You can read the whole House document for Trump impeachment #2 here if you're so inclined. https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20449065-house-impeachment-resolution-final
As far as impeachment for insurrection I got to say its hard to beat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti#Overview_of_"dirty_tricks"_against_Democrats https://dailytrojan.com/2020/02/09/how-uscs-1962-student-elections-created-the-path-to-watergate/ Where did the word “ratfucking” come from, and how did Stone become one of its prime targets? As first recounted by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein in All the President’s Men, the term “ratfucking” entered the lingo of the Nixon campaign thanks to Donald Segretti, who was hired by his old college friend, Dwight Chapin, to sabotage the campaigns of Democrats running in the 1972 primaries. As undergraduates at the University of Southern California, Segretti and Chapin, along with other future Nixon staffers including press secretary Ron Ziegler, had been involved in a group called Trojans for Representative Government that gleefully engaged in shady tactics to win campus elections. “The Trojans called their brand of electioneering ‘ratfucking,’” wrote Woodward and Bernstein. “Ballot boxes were stuffed, spies were planted in the opposition camp, and bogus campaign literature abounded.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_President's_Men#Committee_to_Re-elect_the_President_(CRP) All this was under cover and never to be discovered. ( Unlike Trump) It also included cancelling opposition Rally venues or flooding out halls, bribes and forgery. All this from a carefully orgastrated hidden undergroung army across America. Sneaky These people were payed to do this and the money was traced to Nixon only, after his impeachment. Trump was out in front where you could see him. Nixon none the less sedicious only more difficult to catch and dragging democracy into the dark murk. Into the bargain.
BBC1 are playing All the President’s men on Monday 18th at 00:05, I’ll pop that on record... cheers for the info @Sprinter
Today’s inquisitive mind asks... Is Trump currently being quiet or censored? What’s Kamala Harris gonna be like as president? It seems the Joe Biden isn’t the totally clean cut dude that my initial impressions from the (admittedly light skimming) of media had gathered he is... summat to do with his son profiteering from shared trips abroad when Joe was on official vice-president business. He also (? jokingly) in a CNN interview... Biden was trying to explain how he would handle future disagreements with his Vice President Kamala Harris. “Like I told Barack, if I reach something where there’s a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I’ll develop some disease and say I have to resign.” For a 78 year old to say this (even jokingly) it’s obviously something he’s considered.
Can't see him being in the chair for very long, the man although intelligent and a very experienced political operator, even if his views and opinions seem a bit odd to most British folk, it can't be denied after fifty years or so inhabiting the swamp he's learned a few tricks, but he does seem to be somewhat gaga and not lady! Also, I do have an instant dislike for "Plastic Paddys" I like all of the Irish people I know and I know quite a lot, but somehow American Plastic Paddys do get my Piss to at least a simmer and usually a rolling boil!!!!
Trying to understand the legal issues Trump now faces... this YouTube “legal fella” seems to account well in layman’s terms (I don’t know his bias) It sounds like it could be a close run legal battle, should win on the letter of the law but lose on the “meaning” of the law... worth a watch to interested folk. @Avinarant ... yeah, I know what you mean... my take is that no-one shits roses, so why be painted that you do as a politician? That’s one of the jobs that suffers the most with self-serving opportunists... it’s not just a case of who kinda represents you best, but also who’s gonna use the most lube when they f**k you in the ass!
https://www.mediaite.com/online/con...A_BE0kAh7rOnobjy3XeUS5_0sHRgkuXdVAxARgb5RUNXw Money talks BS walks. Right Wing media is backpedaling on Dominion Fraud allegations.
Just seen a bbc hard talk interview with Alan Dershowitz,my god this man talks sense for a democrat liberal.Not only did he point out that this impeachment is political theatre,but there are those that are trying to change the first amendment for their own political gain,whilst threatening freedom of speech in the USA . Bloody hell who are these woke wankers who want it all their own way,without the people having a say on the matter? Dershowitz made it incredibly clear that he wasn’t a Trump supporter but at the same time, he wasn’t going to stand by and let these neo liberals (my words),get away with this. I have a respect for this man and perhaps more people should listen to what he has to say.
@Tom Gillam he’s right on both accounts. Impeachment at this point doesn’t accomplish anything other than further dividing our country. I agree he incited his mob and didn’t protect our congress at all, but he’s alienated everyone around him enough that even he realizes now what he did. Censorship is a fine line I don’t think companies with any political interest should be in charge of. I don’t have to agree with someone’s opinion but they’re always entitled to it.
It is a really difficult one. Trump undoubtedly plotted and schemed from way before the election - indeed from way before the 2016 election - that if he lost he had to make sure that his supporters believed it could only be because of fraud. In other words to undermine belief in the integrity of the US electoral system. In 2020 he went further and schemed, with others, to again undermine belief in the integrity of the system but also to overrule the result itself, at every possible step up to and including attacking Congress. Even now, after a clear win for Biden and the Trump-media all desperately withdrawing their libellous allegations of fraud by SmartMatic and Dominion, there are clearly many of his supporters who will never believe he didn’t win. And some who are calling for secession, peacefully or otherwise. That is just about as bad a charge sheet against a serving President as you could possibly imagine. And if it doesn’t justify being banned from running for office again (and maybe more serious penalties) then I don’t know what would. The only counter argument i can see is that going heavy on him would further inflame those of his supporters who are already convinced that the election was stolen and that, as QAnon say, he is the only hope of the world against this international conspiracy. The USA is already deeply divided - at least between those who believe Trump’s lies and those, whether Democrat, Republican, or neither, who don’t. At some point those who believe in objective facts and truth have got to take a stand against those, including Trump, who knowingly and deliberately peddle lies with a view to undermining the system itself. To quote Primo Levi, if not now, when?
I didn’t realise that was the name of the program... I watched Newsnight the other evening and saw Emily Maitlis interview James Comey and then Micheal Johns, her style was sympathetic and listening to Comey and aggressive/dismissive to Johns. This was without a doubt due to their standpoint on Trump... but it irritates me because it obviously lacks the impartiality I’d expect... it didn’t seem much, but it was obvious.
What else would you expect from Maitlis,she couldn’t even spell impartial,let alone understand what it means.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/donald-trump-presidency-ending/index.html Trump dont like being compared to Nixon.