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  1. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    They're not, they are protecting their interests and enacting their rights under their agreement with their customers. Surely as you have had legal training you would recognise this?
     
  2. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    The UK position is rooted in UK law. The US/UK legal systems are rooted in Common Law. We are free to do and say anything that is not prohibited. The Codified system of Roman/Civil law only permits that which is expressly provided for......half full meets half empty. Subjects have inalienable freedoms not extended to citizens! Slightly ironic but philosophically different.
     
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  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    However UK and US have fair competition rules to ensure no improper restraint of trade. They have no ‘right’ to put people out of business unlawfully. Parler may yet sue but getting re-platformed is the immediate commercial priority and they won’t seek ‘specific performance’ as living under Amazon’s roof is no longer comfortable.
     
  4. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    It's the second time you write something I can agree today.
    From that point we can still disagree on moral integrity and the "burden of proof" notion you so often swipe away.
     
  5. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Mrs Merkel has just agreed with me!
     
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  6. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    While I have no argument with your opinion, that wasn't the point I was driving at. Legality attempts to reflect the moral values of the relevent society, country etc. Anyone throwing horseshit from a soapbox shouldn't be surprised if they're pelted with cabbages but not necessarily locked up for it.
     
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  7. Octoberon

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  8. Octoberon

    Octoberon Crème de la Crème

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    Would you defend someone's right to say quite literally anything in the name of free speech? I used to quote this myself but, while I understand the principle, it is too open to abuse to be applied without caveat.
     
  9. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    There's always caveats - hate speech and incitement being two of them. I'm comfortable with that, even if it means we have to be on our guard to ensure that unacceptable lines aren't crossed.
     
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  10. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Speakers’ Corner?
    Yes, you can gibber all you like provided you stay within the criminal law. If you slander or libel someone civil remedies are available.
     
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  11. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Unacceptable by whose lights? That is a matter of opinion not fact.
     
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  12. learningtofly

    learningtofly He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
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    I meant unacceptable levels of censorship.
     
  13. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Level or who censors? Both matter in genuinely free liberal democracies.
     
  14. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    Based on your observation is that what is happening (putting people out of business unlawfully)?
     
  15. DCS222

    DCS222 Guest

    Make up you mind... is @Hubaxe Officer Crabtree or Chancellor Merkle??? I’m losing track...
     
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  16. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Mix my french allied stupidity and my german stubborn rigor and you have it !
    The reality is less exiting..
     
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  17. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    My observation is that it looks off beam but the legal position in the US? Not qualified to comment.
    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/antitrust-law.asp
    It will probably end up as a spat about who is harming whom with what intent.
     
  18. OldNick

    OldNick Elite Member

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    OK I got lost at Voltaire, what are we arguing about now Auntie Crabtree :p:p:p
     
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  19. Octoberon

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    The Times has been deciding what letters to print since 1785. Hardly a new concept.
     
  20. OldNick

    OldNick Elite Member

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    I think you will find the Platform Holder has ultimate sanction over content and if it chooses to ditch Parler so be it

    Parler is at liberty to create its own platform for its own content - no massive barriers to entry except discover ability
     

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