Trophy 900 dies when throttle opened up

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Boothy, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. QuadumphUK

    QuadumphUK Noble Member

    Aug 14, 2014
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    Also have you checked the brass jets are still in the float assembly ? As in pic. Caused mine not to run so well. Without them it overfuels jetspointers.JPG
     
  2. Boothy

    Boothy Active Member

    Sep 9, 2016
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    Hi Yes they are all in, stripped down again this morning found a couple problems, think one of the carbs may have been on fire or got to hot in past !!. The bottom of the plastic slider where the jet pushes in looks slightly deformed
    under a magnifying glass and has 2 minute holes that penetrate through to below the o ring can push a piece of fishing line through !!

    Cant be helping also the carburettor diaphragm slide loots to have pits near the bottom although not sticking. Going to try and find an old set of carbs to cannibalise as cannot seem to buy the internal slides new....... unless anyone knows different ?
     
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  3. QuadumphUK

    QuadumphUK Noble Member

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    Upload pick so we can have a look
     
  4. Boothy

    Boothy Active Member

    Sep 9, 2016
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    Update, got a set of carbs from 1996 sprint off ebay, took side guides out, sliders and diaphrams, cleaned them up and fitted in my carb bodies.

    Did notice that the sprint carbs only had one small hole in the bottom of slider rather than the 2 larger ones in my original trophy, checked springs were all the same they were. obviously kept with all my new needles and jets (150 mains).

    Started up, warmed up and revved right around with bit of flat spot, balanced carbs, ticks over perfect still bit of flat spot at 4k although think as good as i am going to get in the garage, intend to get on rolling road when finished.

    Funny about the differences in the holes in the slides i have read a few articles over the past days / weeks get impression that the Trophy air box was so poor at flowing air needed larger holes to get a throttle response (ie more sensitive) and the later bikes flowed more air so need to be less sensitive.

    Certainly as you lift the sliders up and let them fall they are slower than the original trophy ones, also do not seem to "flutter" on tick over as the originals did.

    Any one got any ideas or knows the real reason ? why differing holes and size ?

    Anyway i am pleased with results.
     
  5. QuadumphUK

    QuadumphUK Noble Member

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    I think the holes are bigger to allow the slide to fall quicker so giving snappier throttle response, also with more flow through the slide assuming they raise quicker aswell. be interesting to see what happens when you get on the rolling road and how it fuels, with regards to jet sizes etc, Keep us posted sounds very interesting
     
  6. Boothy

    Boothy Active Member

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    will do be couple weeeks yet
     
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  7. capt

    capt Elite Member

    May 8, 2016
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    Hi Quad, yes you are right, having had a 94" trident which I did the following mods - 1 opened up air box 2 K&N air filter 3 3 into1 open exhaust 4 drilled out those holes you are discussing 5 lifted needles, these gave me More Torque More Horse Power Quicker throttle response and a higher top speed, of all the mods 4 had the most noticeable effect (quickens throttle response) the T300's had CV carbies , CV stands for Constant Velocity, @ nearly all throttle butterfly positions the slide limits air flow speed's to a fairly constant speed ! Volume increases but the flow/speed stays within a set range ! This helps setting jet sizes, if the velocity changed too much there would be greater vacuum pressure sucking the fuel through the jets (flooding might ensue) engine would run too rich when throttle butterfly was opened too quickly or it would starve for fuel if jetting was too small, slide body and those vacuum ports smooth these effects out ( slows everything down) hence drilling them and adjustment of needles or jet sizes can increase power or response times.

    Cheers capt.
     
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  8. t552

    t552 Senior Member

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    Early bikes had the larger hole as described above increases response. Never heard about the one airbox flowing different to others. BTW the original filters were made by Piper X so were good quality.
    If you get a dynojet kit a drill comes with the kit to open holes in the slides
     
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