Triumph Poor Quality :-(

Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by darkman, Jun 8, 2019.

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  1. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Maximise profits where possible :rolleyes:
     
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  2. MrOrange

    MrOrange Guest

    What happens when you give accounting more power than engineering :confused:
     
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  3. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Most who buy the retro vintage styled Bike's only use them for a few years and then sell them on with maybe 2 or 3 thousand miles done. My America has 121,000 klms now and there are plenty of "cheap & nasty" bolts that are doing just fine ! No wear visible, and I do most of my own maintenance and repairs.

    Cheers capt
     
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  4. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    #24 Eldon, Jun 8, 2019
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    It all goes to 5hit!

    .... but then this has happened across many industries.

    The real problem is people, nearly all of us, want better things and cheaper year after year. The shareholders expect a dividend year after year; who funds all of this ultimately?

    The purchaser.
     
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  5. bob1

    bob1 Noble Member

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    hi interested in these shocks looked on the firefox website couldn't see any thing specifically for the speed twin are you having them made to order .
     
  6. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    Yes, they will make them to your size/spec inc spring rates for rider weight.
     
  7. bob1

    bob1 Noble Member

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    thanks ill give them a ring next week are you going for the standard ones or the piggy back ones.
     
  8. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    We are going for the RZ362 non piggyback, the main reason for the change is Su is under 60kg so have gone for the next size softer spring so i can set the sag up better on her bike.
     
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  9. In my own world

    In my own world Senior Member

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    It all down to cost cutting these days. Back in the 80s no one could come near the quality of Honda's. Nowadays their quality is nothing to write home about. All manufacturers are using cheaper parts, even a penny saving on one bolt saves them millions. If you want high quality these days you have to pay for it and buy the parts yourself.
     
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  10. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    #30 thebiglad, Jun 9, 2019
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    As some of you may know, I've been looking at the new Royal Enfield Interceptor. With one eye on the Triumph T100 I took an hour to look around the RE in the local RE concessionaire.

    The welding on the frame was faultless, the brake hoses are all braided, engine cases are brushed but not laquered (easier to maintain). Honestly all is good.

    And to put the tin lid on it, Triumph T100 starts at £9000, whereas the RE Interceptor 650 costs start at £5300 - that's about £3700 cheaper !!!!

    Yes, the T100 is a bit more powerful on paper, but honestly the RE is more than powerful enough, much more comfortable, and has a surprising amount of character. It feels like a great modern classic.
     
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  11. Wire-Wheels

    Wire-Wheels Elite Member

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    I do read about more complaints with the newer Triumphs. That is sad. The earliest Hinckley's seem to be solid. I have three, all built in the old factory before.the fire and they have held up well. I think they will be passed on with my estate when I'm gone. I surely have no intent to sell them. ...J.D.
     
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  12. RayV

    RayV Well-Known Member
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    I couldn’t agree more !!

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  13. RayV

    RayV Well-Known Member
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    It’s not heavy at all, the weight is low down, so it feels stable but not cumbersome. Bargain bike of the year
     
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  14. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Ray, you look like a happy bunny !!!!

    When I went to the RE dealer a few days ago, not only did they have an orange demonstrator, but also an Interceptor with a chrome tank - sold - (drool, drool.) but also a GT with a chrome tank - also sold !!!

    The chrome tanks certainly give the bike an even greater classic look imo.

    Decisions decisions .
     
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  15. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    About 40 years ago, I was on a training course with a guy from our factory (I was a maintenance engineer, fixing the stuff the factory produced). We were complaining to him about the recent use of cheap parts that didn't last as well as they used to. He explained it was all about cost reduction on the production lines. I thought his cynical reply was classic "we design a new product and it goes through testing. If it works, production then cost-reduce it, and if it doesn't work it is cost-reduced."
     
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