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Discussion in 'Speed Triple' started by topbanana0, May 3, 2016.

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  1. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Answered your own question......"someone with a bit of knowledge"
    How many dealers have that?
     
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  2. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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  3. roadrider

    roadrider First Class Member

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    Surely it wouldn't be to difficult to train one of the mechanics to set up suspension.
    They all attend various courses,you'd only need one per dealer.
     
  4. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Agreed.... so why haven't they bothered?
    Ah, they can sell bikes without bothering, or am I just a cynical old git.
    May be it's our own fault for not demanding the service?
     
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  5. lucas60

    lucas60 Active Member

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    Set my sag at 28mm front and 30mm on the rear. You willthen have to adjust your rebound and compression to suit. My compression currently at std but rebound front and rear set at 2and a half clicks out. Hope this helps (I am 80kg)
     
  6. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    I know!! But I got a free one thrown in when I bought the Speedy, that's what clinched the deal.............(not);)
     
  7. Wasp

    Wasp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah keep us posted Anthony. I KNOW my 94R will be too harsh for me, so all being well i'll give them a look.

    ATB

    Bob
     
  8. anthony gothard

    anthony gothard Well-Known Member

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    will do, dont find mine too bad at all as it is. But would like someone with knowledge of the ohlins to set them up for me.
    if im being picky front end seems a bit lazy on turn ins at speed.
    Had total of 9 hours on bike yesterday and all my bits are still intact, so not that uncomfy.
    Or maybe i have more padding than most of you.
     
  9. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    I saw that in the manual too, wonder why, can't remember owning a bike where you couldn't adjust the rear preload.
     
  10. topbanana0

    topbanana0 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah been meaning to email Ohlins about that, what's the point being able to adjust the front pre load but not the back
     
  11. Col_C

    Col_C I can't re...Member

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    Probably just an excuse to save putting a c-spanner in the tool kit? ;)
     
  12. anthony gothard

    anthony gothard Well-Known Member

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    Update..
    This morning i arrived at tw suspension. very knowledgeable guy.
    40 mins, asked my weight initially, then adjusting, measuring, turning turny things, rear pre load was a mile out, front was quite a way out too even though the factory settings were supposed to be for mr average. measuring, on the calculator, measuring again after adjustments. bike loaded, unloaded etc etc, means nowt to me.
    Bike is a triple 94r, 2 months old, 2.5k miles on it.
    When i first rode the bike i thought boy this is an awesome bike, now i think its fuck..g awesome.
    only rode 10 mtrs after adjustments and saw a massive, massive difference.
    the steering is the most noticeable improvement for me, as in last post, front end seemed a bit lazy / heavy. now its as light as a feather, very smooth turn ins, arse end no where near as rigid as before.
    spent a shit loads of money on the bike and on accessories but this is the best £40 value for money mod by far.
    would definitely recommend this guy`s work and knowledge.
    Any make bike, any make suspension, hope this is of help to you guys thinking of tinkering yourself. This guy gets it right first time in 40 mins. For 40 quid. not worth the hastle yourself
     
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  13. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    That sounds absolutely excellent Anthony and worth every penny !!
     
  14. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    Glad you've noticed a big improvement Anthony :cool: :)..Professional set up is definitely on the cards for me too :)
     
  15. anthony gothard

    anthony gothard Well-Known Member

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    cheers fellas
    i`m a total novice and if i see a big improvement i`m sure you seasoned riders will be even more impressed than me
     
  16. jonesy

    jonesy Active Member

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    That's great news , I might even get mine up there if I can't find anyone more Midland based . A good set up is very important I had an R1 totally stock and thought it was good then had maxton do the forks and replace the shock with one of theirs the difference was astonishing . Had my dirt bike done by a guy off the ktm forum and that was so much better than stock. It's the main reason I went for the R, so need to find an ohlins specialist now . Enjoy !
     
  17. anthony gothard

    anthony gothard Well-Known Member

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    Been off work this week, very rare for me.
    Put 1000 miles on her with new settings so can now share my findings.
    Much the same as previous, except the cornering is superb, very light and positive you can feel and get confidence from turn in , through the corner and out at speed. im no racer but spirited riding is so so easy now, flicking to warm tyres up is so good and easy
    The rear.... not noticed a vast difference, just taken the hard shock out of bumps, again very planted.
    been running 36 psi front
    42 psi rear.
    well sorted
    well happy
     
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  18. Victor

    Victor Active Member

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    Set up the rear rider sag on mine today. Had a go a while ago with several of the pin spanners I have, but struggled to access the adjusting rings with the wheel and hugger in place. Ordered a Progressive Syspension pin spanner that accepts a 3/8 ratchet. This gives just the right angle to turn it. It took 1.5 turns from standard to achieve 30mm of sag with me on board 92kg in normal cloths. Difference is like night and day. It now turns with less effort feels more stable.
     
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  19. muzhik

    muzhik Member

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    1.5 turns up or down? I weigh about the same, and unless I measured it wrong I'm showing 44mm+ of sag on the rear at the stock setting on my 2014 (non "R" model). So assuming I'll need to turn the rings ~1.5 turns clockwise to add more preload. I think I can get at it if I move the slip on high mount arrow exhaust out of the way, but will look into a pin spanner on your suggestion instead.
     
  20. Victor

    Victor Active Member

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    Mine is a 2015 non R model and was showing about 45mm is sag. It feels like the rear has dropped ever so slightly over the last couple of thousand miles as it has bedded in. To reduce the sag you need to wind the adjusting collar down, I now have 5 1/5 threads showing at the reference point I marked on the left hand side of the shock. I also managed to adjust it without removing any parts (I also have high level Arrows). You will also notice the spring rotates with the locking ring so you can give it a good clean. I will post a picture of the set up I used later.

    Mark
     
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