Rant of the day

More selfish wankers putting themselves above all others, then needing pulling out of the shit they got themselves into...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-55475508

 

They should be charged the full cost of the rescue, maybe then they will think twice before putting themselves and the emergency teams at unnecessary risk.

 

Ignoring where were the police, just thankful world war 2 was back in 1939 and not now can you imagine calling people up nowadays

 

Yes most of the ordinary poeple of this country would go and fight Only those that are offended by everything would bottle it and hide behind thier principles same as the 1939-1945 war.

 

I’m uncertain on how mass deletion of records happen, but that must be one poorly designed system...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55684320

 

You would expect "deleted records" to be retrievable from backups but that would depend on how long the pertinent backups are kept. You might also have archived records prior to deletion but in this case, maybe not.

 

I dislike my hospital system to work with, but if I recall correctly... we have the live operation system and two back ups (I can’t remember how frequent the back ups are) we are still moving out of paper records, that’s a long process, but I think the hospitals trust I work for has had a good beating over its record Keeping systems previously and the CQC has forced improvements.
Edit-
stupidly... health care records don’t talk to each other across the U.K. because each nhs trust is responsible for purchasing its own system... I suspect the police system is National???

https://www.freshthinking.uhmb.nhs.uk/uhmbt-introduce-improvements-in-patient-record-keeping/

 

Not for the first time large government/official bodies seem to run IT operations which might make you or I feel a bit sharp. Astonishing to me that seemingly one person can drop a bit of a bollock over some filing and do this amount of damage.

 

Either that or it was deleted accidentally on purpose

 

I just can't buy the accidental erasure excuse. Surely they must run at least one level of backup, probably more and with some sort of access restriction so erasing requires several steps, or maybe they were hacked?

 

I think you overestimate the efficiency and competence of large bodies ISTR reading not so long ago that a massive chunk of the NHS is still operating PCs under XP. In a way you'd feel "better" if it were a hack, rather than just a clusterfuck of poorly managed systems.

 

I know a guy works for a bank, he says the same thing about their computer systems. Very outdated!

 

I would be amazed if this data loss is not retrievable. Whilst it is possible that they have not got a complete up to date copy, but they should be able to get back to their latest checkpoint copy. If this not the case those involved in the IT department should lose their jobs. I would not be surprised that in the future the data will be recovered, but with no big media coverage.

 

Backups are set to keep a certain number of old copies. So for instance when you do a daily backup, you would keep the latest 7 copies at least. You might also do a monthly backup, keeping the latest 12 so you could go back a year. Before you start the process of deleting records, you would first take a backup of the database in case anything went wrong, this "one off" backup would be kept for a very long time. Methinks the deleted records are not actually "lost".

 

You are correct Andy many organisations run outdated software operating systems. However this does not necessarily make their IT environments insecure. If the system sit behind a well maintained and secure network environment with secure zones protected by firewalls then the fact that the systems are running on old and outdated operating systems is not an issue. This applies to both backend computer systems and front end PC's.

 

Retrieval will depend on the level of deletion and if the free space on the hard drive has then been wiped and overwritten, assuming standard SATA hard drives are being used which I would imagine they are.

 

Backup ffs!!!!
Twatos!

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

BLOODY COMPUTERS!!

Yours faithfully,

A. Luddite.

That is all!

 

Odd that people are now complaining about the police deleting records they should never have been keeping in the first place.
These were not records of people who had been convicted of a crime.
If you haven't noticed the police now tend to arrest first and investigate later - a bit too Napoleonic Code for me - and as part of the "arrest" they were taking DNA samples.
If I remember correctly they were ordered by the high court to destroy records which they were not legally entitled to obtain or retain.
Seems they've finally got round to doing it and someone is complaining that they've done it.
Do you think someone is manipulating things as their DNA database isn't covering as much of the population as they'd like?

 

I've heard people saying covid testing is being used as a DNA grab