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  1. DCS900

    DCS900 Careful, man! There’s a beverage here!

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  2. Octoberon

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    @Happy Jack Irrespective of the political investigations, the net is closing on Trump from all sorts of directions. He's in a lot of legal peril. You don't go after the guy at the top, you work your way up the food chain and get all the damning evidence first. That's how mob trials work. That's why it takes time.
     
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  3. Happy Jack

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    Watch what happens in November
     
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  4. PatW

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    Trump could be right about putin being a "genius" as putin never suggested people inject disinfectant to reduce the risk of covid...
     
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  5. DCS900

    DCS900 Careful, man! There’s a beverage here!

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    Whilst all the squabbling around our modern (western) failings satisfies a need to express anger or defensive indignation… it’s doesn’t help the people of Ukraine. The Kremlin has set the wheels of war in action… and the current situation is what needs resolution as soon as possible. The awkward history of how we got to this current situation plays out over hundreds of years, not just the last 1/2 decade… and I don’t see any quick-stop opportunity to sort things out without the pointless killing, but resolution will have to come via diplomatic means ultimately.
     
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  6. PatW

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    War is diplomacy by other means, we persuaded Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons in the 90's, Putin is playing an excellent game of poker, he knows what's in everyone's hands and how far everyone is willing to bluff.
     
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  7. Happy Jack

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    I am afraid to say without intervention the Ukraine will be lost. Putins appetite will never be satisfied until someone has the courage to call his bluff. But the consequences are so dire I doubt this will happen. Biden has missed his chance to be a great president as long as we continue the green course forgoing domestic fossil fuel production and buying Russian oil All this does is finance Russian aggression I applaud the Canadians Germans and other nations that have cut theirs ties to Putins fossil fuels Yes it would seems a diplomatic solution would be best But how?
     
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  8. Octoberon

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    Watch what happens in 2024.
     
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  9. Happy Jack

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    #149 Happy Jack, Mar 3, 2022
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  10. I dont think many people realise how much of a hold Kremlin type governments have on people by control and restricting their information, it almost seems inconceivable they are able to do that. Having read accounts of N Koreans who 'escaped' N K
     
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  11. I dont think many people realise how much of a hold Kremlin type governments have on people by control and restricting their information, it almost seems inconceivable they are able to do that. Having read accounts of N Koreans who 'escaped' N Korea, they tell of the people there believing that Kim Jon-un can actually read their minds. So naturally, they are petrified to even think 'bad' thoughts. Useful tool though.
     
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  12. Happy Jack

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    I will
     
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  13. Bikerman

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    #153 Bikerman, Mar 4, 2022
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    Thanks for that, but sadly I can't listen to a word that that man says. I know, shame on me.
     
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  18. DCS900

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    I know what you mean, self righteous but without an actual solution
     
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  19. Adie P

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    "All wars end with a political solution. All wars end with dialogue."

    He might, in a technical sense, be right but I very strongly doubt that the dialogue that did eventually take place to 'end' the last two world wars would have been opened without the preceding use of overwhelming force on the original perpetrators.

    Hitler's suicide was his personal demonstration of the "never surrender" mindset that he maintained till the end - regardless of the cost to humanity and the wider world.

    I suspect Putin has a not too dissimilar mindset and a wholly similar disdain of the consequences of his actions.
     
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