How Much??? Pmsl

True, although at least it's a genuine classic rather than a current bike with trinkets thrown at it.

 

I'm in a minority for what I think about Triumph and their pitching of these models and indeed their modern classic in general. I also don't particularly like how I think their marketing department regards the typical customer for some (not all) of these bikes.

Having had first hand experience of a 2018 T100 and what it took to make that bike suit me I came to realize that the T100/T120 models aren't great value for money and that Triumph might regard the typical customers for these as having deep pockets (with respect to what you actually get for your money) and are easily dazzled with what is iundoubtedly a pretty bike. You can even look to their own bikes to compare for levels of equipment (suspension, brakes, frame etc) and general engineering standards and you have to ask yourself how do I get all of this for the same or similar money? Look at the mid/top level Street Triple and entry level Speed Triple for example. The new Trident further reinforces this point.

Triumph have a brilliant marketing department who rarely get things wrong and it's this that bothers me. They have determined somebody will pay massively over the odds and what might be reasonable for something that is simply adorned in trinkets and I'm disappointed that people will get excited and throw their money at it rather call them out and ask 'what do you think you're doing? you're taking the p*ss now'.

I like engineering, not beard oil and coffee shops.

I'm pleased that Triumph cater for so many different tastes and I'd rather that they did and that they find different ways to relieve their customers of their hard earned. This ensures their survival as a business which is important.

I still have my Thruxton R and probably won't be selling any time soon. Although I have to say that were there certain bikes in market back 2017 when I bought it I don't know that I'd have a Triumph in the garage at all. I've seen Triumph fail to remedy a potentially dangerous fault where the engine randomly stalls and I spent over £800 to fix what Triumph seemingly couldn't. There have been other recalls, some more serious than others. I'm not somebody that spends on accessories but I will spend what it takes to get the core hardware right or to a standard that suits me, accepting that different folk have different priorities and standards. There's no right or wrong here but I encourage people to be aware of what they themselves want and need from a bike.

Anyhow, these are my own opinions and they're not really worth anything to anyone else but I do sincerely hope that whoever considers a bike from this genre that they set aside it's appearance for a few minutes and thoroughly analyze the prospective purchase from a value for money and engineering perspective. Heritage is one thing but they should still be delivering a bike that befits the asking price.

 

I think by fitting top drawer suspension to this model along with other key parts like narrower wheels, different seat, different foot pegs and other weight saving components their intention is that it gets used. I can see they've added some cosmetic changes which is just so since there are very expensive and significant hardware changes and an owner should feel that they've paid for a premium motorcycle. In Triumphs case they stopped at the cosmetic changes and inflated the price disproportionately. KTM's example here demonstrates my point...significant engineering upgrades and that model being differentiated by a specific paint scheme and trim parts is reasonable. So for me, this example is less contentious.

 

Agreed on the Daytona, good credentials and significantly different to the production spec. Speculators are another matter, its typical when limited numbers of desirable things are made. In this case there were quite a few kicking around and I don't think they sold out as dramatically as planned. If I recall its release coincided with other significant bikes breaking cover from the likes of Ducati etc.

 

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