Help!!!! Oil Shot Everywhere While On The Highway, And White Smoke. Cannot Start Bike!!

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  1. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Yes that's what I was thinking but not having had one of these apart I don't know the exact layout.
     
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  2. Callumity

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    IT people just aren’t sentimental like you. They have been preying on the ignorant for years.........
     
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  3. dilligaf

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    :confused: Oh dear :confused:
    Just come back to this and have to agree with what’s been said :(
    That engine isn’t even worth looking at unless some of the top end can be salvaged for spares :confused:
    It’s definitely been apart before and obviously hasn’t been re-assembled properly :(
    Like it’s been said get a decent second hand engine put in it and all is not lost
    Such a shame :sob:
     
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  4. Yorkshireman

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    I think the layout is the same as the 1050 engine. I’ve just changed the gen cover after a fall off the stand last year and the balance shaft is in front of the crank, right where that crack is in the pic.
     
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  5. Yorkshireman

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    Balance shaft is the one far right, gear driven off the crank.
     
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  6. Eastbournemark

    Eastbournemark Proud Snowflake

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    Hope you get over this YOsH. I feel your pain.

    When I was 18 (in the 1970s) a ‘friend’ sold me his Honda CB250 G5. It was my first proper bike after a sports moped. Needless to say it was knackered and I gave it away as scrap. No money, no bike and an ex-friend. 6 months on from this I was in a position to buy a new bike (Kawasaki Z200). I’ve had a bike ever since and have rarely been troubled by even small issues.

    Hope you can get your head round this and get back on a beautiful bike soon. All the best.
     
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  7. Yorkshireman

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    In the top pic you can see the head gasket and the cylinder base gasket, the joint with all the shit coming out is the joint for the crankcase halves, and it doesn’t look like Triumph put it together like that.
     
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  8. Yorkshireman

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    I wonder if this motor has been previously seized and has been hastily put back together to move it on. That could explain why it looks like it has been put together poorly with the gasket compound looking messy around the crankcase halves. It’s a guess but I would say it has seized again leading to a catastrophic failure of the crank which while spinning at high revs has come to a sudden stop and broken the case around the area of the balance shaft. As has been said, it’s a pity we can’t get a look inside the motor to see what has gone wrong, but I agree, it is terminal.
     
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  9. joe mc donald

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    I feel for you. Drop those bikes and they dump the oil into the exhaust chamber so as not to start a fire. So in theory you rode your bike minus your oil. You have well and truly cooked your engine. The conrods will have snapped and that is evident by the mullered crank. You may well be able to pick up an engine but they are not cheap. I will ask my boy if he knows of any going for sale. But you buy an engine at your own risk as you never know what has been done to them.
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  10. Yorkshireman

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    Wouldn’t there have been some evidence of that Joe, if the oil ended up in the exhaust when he dropped it wouldn’t it have blocked the cat and blown the rest out of the silencer?
     
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  11. stevethegoolie

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    Replacement used engine needed but as has been said, strip the broken one to see what has happened and sell what is still good.
    I seem to remember something about early 675s having an issue with using oil to the point where the level became dangerously low. Don't know when it was fixed though. Or have I been hallucinating again?
     
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  12. stevethegoolie

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    Cheers, Andy. That sounds familiar. Can't remember the model years affected, but then again, I failed my history 'O' level three times! ('O' levels!:eek: Remember them???:scream:).
     
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  13. joe mc donald

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    No for some reason they don't they drip the oil out slowly and I do believe they have a drip hole in the pipe. And I believe it is about two thirds of the oil they remove. It dissipates and burns of slowly. I know from the boys race bike every time it goes down he has to do the same thing check the level and refill. For some reason it was supposed to stop the bike bursting into flames.
    Ride Safe
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  14. joe mc donald

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    I would say without much doubt it snapped the conrods. and the balance sprocket that is wafer thin. That is why the race boys remove the sprocket as the bike really doesn't need it there. Like I said those bikes if they go down you need to recheck the oil level. Well the proof is there to be seen. And I can show you two sets of cranks the Boy blew while he was learning. He can now strip the engines with his eyes closed. Its just a bummer it had to happen to a member.
    Ride Safe
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  15. Eastbournemark

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    Good on you Ron. Not so anti-social after all! Hope YoSH can sort something out.
     
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  16. Bad Billy

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    Nice one Ron, you da man!
     
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  17. YOsH

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    Hello Ron, thanks for reaching out and sorry to everyone on the post if I've been so quiet this last week. I'm just super sad about my dream and first bike having this issue and the weather in toledo is just finally getting bearable. I 've been scouring the internet looking for engines to fit the bike , quick question would a Speed triple R 2015 engine fit a Daytona? Also Ron i live in Toledo, OH. I have no clue what parts of the engine are salvageable or sellable but you'll have free range to look at whatever you like.
     
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  18. YOsH

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    Also does anyone think there could be any legal action taken? The seller stated that there was no past damage no hidden issues or services not reflected on the receipts he gave me and said the bike is ready for the road. I have proof of all this (our conversations via messenger) and seeing how some of you said the engine could have literally seized while riding it seems very underhanded and misleading as a seller as none of this was stated in his sales post.
     
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  19. Eldon

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    Private sale there is very little come back on second-hand goods.
    Caveat Emptor.

    Sorry..... unless you paid by credit card?
     
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  20. YOsH

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    Nah unfortunately i paid in cash but i do have the receipt of the deposit of funds from my bank. Also what if i can take this to a Triumph dealership and have a mechanic prove that work was previously done on the motor
     
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  21. Sprinter

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    I think it would be very hard to prove the bike was in a dangerous condition when sold.
     
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  22. Sprinter

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    He can prove work was done, how does he prove it wasnt done by you/someone else?
     
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