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  1. Sandi T

    Sandi T It's ride o'clock somewhere!
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    Are any of you in the UK going to be in this study?! This was in our Tucson daily newspaper this morning.

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  2. DCS222

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    #1322 DCS222, May 25, 2020
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    Just thought I’d check back on the Twitter feed from 10 Downing Street to check if it was advice or instruction to not travel to see friends or family... these are from the 2 days before the Dom’s road trip!
    Says it all.. the rules are for plebs only!

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  3. Dave49

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    #1323 Dave49, May 25, 2020
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    Nevertheless, we have been assured that Mr Cummings acted 'legally, responsibly and with integrity'.

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  4. Doc Strange

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    My view is he may be able to give a poor justification that sounds like he kept within the rules, but we all know he took the piss.

    But could I see myself doing the same in the same circumstances?

    Did I or others I know stretch the rules in a similar way at any time?

    I just don't see this as that important - usual media storm with those contributing taking completely predictable sides.

    Not saying DC isn't a wankstain, but this incident doesn't prove it.

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  5. b_badger

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    The media are after his scalp because of Brexit, if the media win then that's not a good thing impo.

    Where we the media when Stephen Kinnock broke the lockdown? in that instance the police were criticised for being over zealous.
     
  6. Wessa

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    Whilst I think he has been a complete prat, how many can say that they have not bent the rules in the past eight weeks. I'm fed up with the whole story, there are more important things to worry about......
     
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  7. Dave49

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    Obviously some of us on here are left-leaning, some are right-leaning, and some are neither, and our views on this issue will be affected by our own politics. But attacking the press for exposing the wrong-doing doesn't excuse what Cummings has done. Of course other politicians have broken the rules, but they (including Stephen Kinnock) were all well roasted in the press for it. The key difference is that Cummings is at the heart of the government which wrote the rules which the rest of us are expected to obey. Even the very right wing (and very pro-Brexit) Daily Mail can see the difference, and is demanding his resignation, as are growing numbers of Conservative MPs, reflecting the anger of their constituents. Other public officials were forced to resign for lesser breaches. Johnson has done his own standing massive harm by trying to brazen it out.
     
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  8. DCS222

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    Cummings should be treated with the same sword he uses on his opponents...
    but just remember that all parties have arrogance near their core!
     
  9. b_badger

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    widely mooted that cummings was against the lockdown and was behind Prof Whitty's original herd immunity plan, but as he doesn't make his advice public we don't know either way.

    All this fuss over one person.

    Let's not forget airports stayed open with 15,000 unchecked people entering the country every day!
     
  10. Sandi T

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    More UK news in our little ol' Tucson daily newspaper this morning. Looks like Mr. Cummings has even made the news here. :rolleyes:

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  11. Dave49

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    Letting the airports stay open was indeed a very bad decision by the government. And who was the government's key adviser?
     
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  12. b_badger

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    do you attack the fool or the person that follows the fool?

    We don't know what cummings advised, and he's not the only advisor, he's not even elected, he's just an employee.
     
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  13. stinger

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    Well this is taken from governments own website it was put up on 22nd March and remains in place...

    "Who this guidance is for
    This guidance is for people planning to visit second homes or holiday premises during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

    Essential travel does not include visits to second homes, camp sites, caravan parks or similar, whether for isolation purposes or holidays. People must remain in their primary residence. Not taking these steps puts additional pressure on communities and services that are already at risk.

    People with holiday homes and caravans are still not permitted to travel to their second home or to stay overnight. Leaving your home - the place you live - to stay at another home is not allowed."

    Should say at the bottom...
    "Who this guidance is not for, Dominic Feckin Cummings"
     
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  14. b_badger

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    Guidance was so confused we could pass quotes back and forth all day ..

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    If the media and so many politicians hate him so much, then he must of been doing something right :)
     
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  15. figwold

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    Look I’m no Brexit fan, and I think the government’s handling of the Covid-19 crisis has been a shambles. As one of many examples, if quarantining people who come into the country is either necessary or sensible - and by this point it probably isn’t - then FFS why wait ‘til 8th June?.

    But I think this has been blown up out of all proportion, and the press should drop it and move on.

    He himself hasn’t been “up-front” urging us all to stay at home, but his excuse (and it is probably a bit elaborated and certainly very carefully worked out) is, nonetheless, just about on the limit.

    I’m more interested in running this thing better going forwards.
     
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  16. OldNick

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    Must be a slow news day in Tucson Sandi:)
     
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  17. OldNick

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    For me that’s the problem an unelected advisor is running things, then doesn’t follow the rules because he thinks he’s a special case, shows no remorse or acceptance that his actions are unacceptable, then makes a pathetically unbelievable excuse for driving another 60 miles - all the time the rest of us were cooped up doing as we were asked to save the NHS - if he had a shred of decency he’d resign and if Boris were at all Churchillian he’d have sacked him on the spot
    This is of course the wrong time for this to come up while there is an unprecedented pandemic to deal with, but that shouldn’t mean this gets swept under the carpet to avoid a scene, it should never have happened in the first place and should have been dealt with quickly and decisively ... if we had a proper leader
     
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  18. Sandi T

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    Most days--other than Coronavirus stories and stats--seem to be slow news days lately, @OldNick. :rolleyes: And the news that is in the paper seems to somehow be either directly or indirectly related to or a consequence of the pandemic and shut-downs. In the Sports section, for example, the reporters are pulling out stories from years past to "pad the pages". Interesting articles some of them, but not really news.
     
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  19. Helmut Visor

    Helmut Visor Only dead fish go with the flow
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    Having endured broadcast news over the period of this pandemic lockdown and the numerous reports and interviews done from home and remote locations there is one stand out for me. It has absolutely highlighted the shockingly poor phone and internet infrastructure around the whole of the UK :mad::mad:
    Interviews where you catch one in three words, frozen screens, signal dropping out : unamused:: unamused:
    First world problems maybe but we pay all the different providers a huge amount of money every month, the technology is out there for a trouble free national network and yet we are still suffering shoddy networks and connections :triumph::triumph:
    Really fecks me off :confounded::confounded:
    Possibly should be in Rant of the Day but hey ho :cool::cool:
     
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  20. tcbandituk

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    That's a very optimistic view given that it is only confirmed cases.
    Given that we're doing low levels of testing compared to some other countries, the true figure could be many times that number. I'm not saying it is but, unless everyone is tested, you can't tell, only guess.
     
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