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Wessa · Mar 23, 2020

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New from the Netherlands

The Netherlands has brought in a ban on all organised gatherings of more than three people until June 1 and will give mayors the power to fine people who break the rules – including those who do not keep 1.5 metres from others. The tough new measures were announced by justice minister Ferd Grapperhaus at a news conference on Monday evening, following a meeting of the government’s crisis committee with health and security experts. ‘The key to our success is our own behaviour,’ Grapperhaus said. ‘Do not go out unless you have to leave to go to work, or do do shopping. Go shopping alone. And if you do want to go for a walk, don’t go in a group.’ Grapperhaus said he realised the ban on gatherings to June 1 – which means all the festivals being organised for Liberation Day – will be hard for a lot of people. ‘But we have no other choice to combat coronavirus,’ Grapperhaus said. By giving the date now, organisers can adapt their planning, the minister said. Mayors are also to be given emergency powers to ban groups of three or more people from being together if they are not keeping the 1.5 metres distance and to close parts of their towns and cities where people are flouting the law. Schools A decision on whether or not keeping schools, cafes and restaurants should remain closed will be taken on or around April 6 as planned, ministers said. The closure has also now been applied to hairdressers and nail studios. Grapperhaus also said in answer to questions later that informal school groups would also be subjected to fines. Shops will have to make sure the measures they are introducing to keep customers apart are displayed at the entrance. Shops which do not keep the rules will be subject to fines of up to €4,000. Mayors will also be able to close food markets if they do not have the facilities to ensure people do not stand 1.5 metres apart. Youngsters ‘If you are not bothered about the impact of your behaviour on other people then you can face a fine,’ a visibly irritated prime minister Mark Rutte said. In effect, the Netherlands is going into an ‘intelligent lockdown’, Rutte said. ‘If someone in your family is ill, everyone should stay home. In other situations, if you want to get a bit of fresh air, you can, but go alone.’ The prime minister also had harsh words for youngsters who might feel that they cannot get sick. ‘I was very irritated by the young people I saw on television saying they were not worried,’ the prime minister said. ‘If you do get sick, you can infect others. We live with 17 million people together,’ the prime minister said. Hospitals Newly appointed health minister Martin van Rijn said that at the moment, there is enough capacity in intensive care wards at Dutch hospitals to cope. The Netherlands is also working on setting up its own capacity to produce breathing apparatus, he said.

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I reckon Boris will be sending the same message to the UK at 20:30hs this evening....

Don the Don · Mar 23, 2020

BonnieCat said: ↑

New from the Netherlands

The Netherlands has brought in a ban on all organised gatherings of more than three people until June 1 and will give mayors the power to fine people who break the rules – including those who do not keep 1.5 metres from others. The tough new measures were announced by justice minister Ferd Grapperhaus at a news conference on Monday evening, following a meeting of the government’s crisis committee with health and security experts. ‘The key to our success is our own behaviour,’ Grapperhaus said. ‘Do not go out unless you have to leave to go to work, or do do shopping. Go shopping alone. And if you do want to go for a walk, don’t go in a group.’ Grapperhaus said he realised the ban on gatherings to June 1 – which means all the festivals being organised for Liberation Day – will be hard for a lot of people. ‘But we have no other choice to combat coronavirus,’ Grapperhaus said. By giving the date now, organisers can adapt their planning, the minister said. Mayors are also to be given emergency powers to ban groups of three or more people from being together if they are not keeping the 1.5 metres distance and to close parts of their towns and cities where people are flouting the law. Schools A decision on whether or not keeping schools, cafes and restaurants should remain closed will be taken on or around April 6 as planned, ministers said. The closure has also now been applied to hairdressers and nail studios. Grapperhaus also said in answer to questions later that informal school groups would also be subjected to fines. Shops will have to make sure the measures they are introducing to keep customers apart are displayed at the entrance. Shops which do not keep the rules will be subject to fines of up to €4,000. Mayors will also be able to close food markets if they do not have the facilities to ensure people do not stand 1.5 metres apart. Youngsters ‘If you are not bothered about the impact of your behaviour on other people then you can face a fine,’ a visibly irritated prime minister Mark Rutte said. In effect, the Netherlands is going into an ‘intelligent lockdown’, Rutte said. ‘If someone in your family is ill, everyone should stay home. In other situations, if you want to get a bit of fresh air, you can, but go alone.’ The prime minister also had harsh words for youngsters who might feel that they cannot get sick. ‘I was very irritated by the young people I saw on television saying they were not worried,’ the prime minister said. ‘If you do get sick, you can infect others. We live with 17 million people together,’ the prime minister said. Hospitals Newly appointed health minister Martin van Rijn said that at the moment, there is enough capacity in intensive care wards at Dutch hospitals to cope. The Netherlands is also working on setting up its own capacity to produce breathing apparatus, he said.

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Just take care Bonniecat, I have three Brothers and two sisters in Holland they where saying how hard it was getting, rest assured the UK will have to implement draconian measures before some of this lot understands the situation.

Wessa · Mar 23, 2020

Well it is here, complete lock down for us all.

BonnieCat · Mar 23, 2020

Don the Don said: ↑

Just take care Bonniecat, I have three Brothers and two sisters in Holland they where saying how hard it was getting, rest assured the UK will have to implement draconian measures before some of this lot understands the situation.
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I don’t think Boris went far enough.

Wessa · Mar 23, 2020

BonnieCat said: ↑

I don’t think Boris went far enough.
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Sounded comprehensive to me.....

Helmut Visor · Mar 23, 2020

Just dropped my truck off this evening for service and MOT tomorrow, fingers crossed it will still be done. Am one of these key workers so pretty essential I get it back and MOT'd

BonnieCat · Mar 23, 2020

Wessa said: ↑

Sounded comprehensive to me.....
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Maybe I heard wrong but he’s still only asking. I hope I misheard

Wessa · Mar 23, 2020

BonnieCat said: ↑

Maybe I heard wrong but he’s still only asking. I hope I misheard
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I thought he said that the police will have powers to enforce it?

BonnieCat · Mar 23, 2020

Don the Don said: ↑

Just take care Bonniecat, I have three Brothers and two sisters in Holland they where saying how hard it was getting, rest assured the UK will have to implement draconian measures before some of this lot understands the situation.
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Most foodstuffs are available, it’s the constant battle to get toilet rolls over here which is driving me nuts. Went to a different supermarket and none available. The more shops you keep having to go to the more risky it is.
Also you can’t order anything on line as all the delivery slots well into April are full

BonnieCat · Mar 23, 2020

Dozers Dad said: ↑

The loophole seemed to be that we can still go out to exercise.
I assume that means walking a dog?
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Yes I would imagine so. Thankfully I’ve got cats and they use the litter trays

Wessa · Mar 23, 2020

Dozers Dad said: ↑

The loophole seemed to be that we can still go out once a day to exercise. Providing it's only with members of your family that live in the same house.
I assume that includes walking a dog?
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Yep he did say you could exercise, but only once a day and only with members of your household. Not sure how that can be enforced though.

David Cooper · Mar 23, 2020

There will still be lots of brain dead morons wandering the streets tomorrow, and not enough police to do anything about it.

Kenbro · Mar 23, 2020

Can anyone interpret whether this will effect a small fabrication shop employing 5?
Cheers,Ken.

Wessa · Mar 23, 2020

Kenbro said: ↑

Can anyone interpret whether this will effect a small fabrication shop employing 5?
Cheers,Ken.
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I thought he said all non essential shops, so probably yes....

crispey · Mar 23, 2020

Helmut Visor said: ↑

Just dropped my truck off this evening for service and MOT tomorrow, fingers crossed it will still be done. Am one of these key workers so pretty essential I get it back and MOT'd
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Hopefully these things will be open for essential vehicles. Maybe be a bit of a drive away.

BonnieCat · Mar 23, 2020

David Cooper said: ↑

There will still be lots of brain dead morons wandering the streets tomorrow, and not enough police to do anything about it.
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The police/Army need to crack down hard on thugs causing problems on the street like we discussed earlier. Those animals can’t be allowed to just get off Scott free after giving that pensioner a black eye after coughing on her

Kenbro · Mar 23, 2020

Wessa said: ↑

I thought he said all non essential shops, so probably yes....
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Thought he meant retail shops ,but not sure. Fab shop= Manufacture.
Ken.

crispey · Mar 23, 2020

Friend of my wife’s has just messaged her saying there’s a traffic jam down her road queuing for drive through McDonald’s, seemingly they’re giving food away before closing down

andypandy · Mar 23, 2020

Wessa said: ↑

I thought he said all non essential shops, so probably yes....
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It's not a shop though, it's manufacturing.

andypandy · Mar 23, 2020

BonnieCat said: ↑

The police/Army need to crack down hard on thugs causing problems on the street like we discussed earlier. Those animals can’t be allowed to just get off Scott free after giving that pensioner a black eye after coughing on her
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Agreed. A rifle butt in the gob would do the trick.

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