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  1. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    Bloke in a petrol station, must be true then
    Maybe I should consult with your friend from the Spanish petrol station who is your "go-to" expert in EU matters?
     
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  2. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    The twist about EU claiming dose made in UK plant seems to be the contract has ben signed while UK was still member of EU.
    hmm All laboratories struggle to produce as promised. Bad bad
     
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  3. Tom Gillam

    Tom Gillam Guest

    Especially for the rose tinted oversized Euro blinkered savant
    Apologies I missed Ireland

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  4. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Well on that, despite the laughable source ( @dilligaf Marmite please), it's a confirmed information.
    There was also later a PIGGS derogatory name used (second G for Great Britain).
     
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  5. Tom Gillam

    Tom Gillam Guest

    Can you verify that please?source?
     
  6. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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  7. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Marmite can be found in various stores I guess.
     
  8. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    BTW Keep up the insults, they are very amusing. Should we call you the Gammon of Glastonbury?
     
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  9. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Once again, lot's of talking around Astra Zeneca, but this vaccine from what I can read and ear about (eg Axel Kahn interview this am); is not the best technology anyway.
    RNA vaccines will be more easily adaptable to next variants, and faster to produce.
    The global vaccination process has certainly better chances to achieve with RNA.
    This EU vs UK snowball fight is really futile in a bigger picture context.
     
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  10. Tom Gillam

    Tom Gillam Guest

    Call me what you like and if you call that an insult,then you must take offence very easily/readily.
    Thee cassn’t ejucate pork TillyB
     
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  11. Tom Gillam

    Tom Gillam Guest

    I can’t see this ending well for the Eu.Even the German media aren’t impressed with either their lack of action or behaviour.
     
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  12. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    My comment was not about EU or non EU and from a personal purpose I don't really care about that. No one has enough vaccine, everywhere.
    The Covid is now worldwide. Variants appear here and there, and spread quickly. For example in France the "english" variant is already 10% of the contamination, almost 50% in Paris area.
    All conversations are about a vaccine with a technology that will probably not be able to face the next years.
    The better solution seems to be the RNA way. That's all I was saying.
     
  13. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    Sorry, don't speak old Glastonbury dialect!
     
  14. Tom Gillam

    Tom Gillam Guest

    I wouldn’t expect you to understand...
     
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  15. figwold

    figwold First Class Member

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    Hmmm.

    1 - It doesn’t need to be stored at -70
    2 - It costs a fraction of the others
    3 - It appears to work as well
    4 - It seems to allow for a longer delay between first and second jabs

    But otherwise it isn’t as good as “the others”...?
     
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  16. Tom Gillam

    Tom Gillam Guest

    Where’s your evidence?
     
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  17. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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  18. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Yes all that is true. BUT :)
    It's less effective (by between 10 to 20% regarding test reports), slower to adapt if new aggressive variant appears , slower to produce.
    Moreover RNA can't be short on ingredient supply.

    To answer about the source of information. it's the eminent Axel Kahn world class geneticist.
    He is one of the knowledgeable about RNA and the hope is this technology, despite the exact cons you are pointing out.

    Sure if my country vaccines with the viral one, it's fine. But at a longer timescale and at a larger scale, RNA seems a better answer.
     
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  19. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    I'm not a solicitor but I don't think its as simple as that. If it were the anti-eu mob would be all over it.
     
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