Corona Virus

I guess he might get away with insisting new employees had it, but it seems unlikely he could apply it to existing employment contracts.

 

That’s a simple and sobering story. It reinforces the point of playing safe when there’s just no reason we shouldn’t - masks etc.

 

Yes a very sobering story. I for one am taking this latest mutation and lockdown very seriously. Me and the wife have not ventured out except for trips to the supermarket for a few things that have no come in our home deliveries from Morrisons. I hope all you guy's and gal's can stay safe until we get vaccinated.

 

We are back onto rotational three week furloughs as from next Monday. Dont know who yet.

 

He seems to have disappeared. Either the FBI are interrogating him or he’s found a job on some weird website. This one perhaps...

https://anchor.fm/allie-morrill

 

I see, one year on, we have finally introduced a quarantine restriction on all new arrivals into the UK. Two different perspectives:

1 About time, why on earth didn’t we do it straight away?

2 What difference would it have made with a government that believes in waiting until it’s too late to impose any kind of intervention against COVID?

What do you think?

 

Any relationship with Capt Hindsight,Figwold?

 

No, which is why I offered two different perspectives (without expressing any opinion) and asked you, my lovely reader, the opportunity to tell us what YOU think.

And as usual you showed that you don’t actually think, or even read. Just sneer

 

That’s bloody good coming from you mate,

 

It’s a great shame for us all that you couldn’t have offered your insight earlier,but you didn’t.

 

I don’t think a bit of status quo does you any harm, whatever you want?

Covid is global already, we appear to be going through a series of variants... reacting on the technical significance of each is one thing... but maybe, for once a little pro-action is in order... maybe, whilst were in Lockdown anyway... we should take time out and review the global situation?

 

But in a way your perspectives were the same, that is, ridiculing the way the situation has been handled. I'll admit it's not been perfect but, I'm prepared to give some lattitude for a unique and changing situation. It's a no win situation for the government(I'm no conservative supporter) but please publish the Figwold Proposal March 2020 then we can see what should have been done.

 

Haven't really kept up with restrictions as per foreign travel just what's washed over me from the news. A whole new can of worms.

 

Always seemed at odds with me that you can't actually meet a friend in their garden and stand 6 metres away under the lockdown rules but you could get on a feckin plane and travel halfway round the world!

 

And while they debate they may want to show us the possess, or do they Muddy Waters and Status Quo, boom boom.

 

Foreign travel for me-just been asked to do an installation in Scotland....

 

Boom Boom is by John Lee Hooker

 

Fair point Andy, not the intention.

Well tbh I think it’s pretty impossible to stop this virus from spreading internationally without completely locking down all of a country’s borders à la NZ. And I don’t think that is or ever was a realistic option for the UK because of four reasons:

1 We are a significant net importer of food so have no choice but to allow people and products in

2 We are a very connected country and major international transport hub

3 Our citizens are as close as you can get to global citizens, so at any point in time we will be pretty much everywhere in the world and will need to return

4 We have an open and essentially unmanaged border with Ireland


Therefore while “closing the borders” may be superficially attractive it is in practice impossible other than in an “end of days” situation.

I would however have introduced testing of all arrivals at an earlier stage as I can’t see any downside to doing so.

As to the government’s handling, I think they have let themselves - and therefore us - down by being indecisive. They seem to have been Canute-like (actually Canute-unlike) in repeatedly decrying suggestions, only to finally adopt them as a last desperate resort after the entire country has already decided to do so ahead of them. Examples:

- initially going for herd immunity only to abandon it when the entire population said “bugger that for a game of soldiers”
- refusing to have a second lockdown in October only to do so in Nov
- insisting that Christmas would be ok only to give it up too late
- having a proper second/third lockdown post Christmas which was made inevitable by the partial Christmas relaxation
- refusing to introduce testing at the airports until nine months after Heathrow pleaded for them to do so

you can debate whether any of these decisions was good or bad. But every one of them was a reversal of a public stance.

 

Ok Martin you think the government has not managed the pandemic very well, and that is ok cause it is your view.
I just want to pick out your point about Christmas. If the government had not allowed people to mix on Christmas Day do you honestly think if they had cancelled Christmas the population would have adhered to that restriction?
There is no way people would have agreed to that and they would have gone ahead with their plans anyway. This would have damaged any control that could be levelled going into 2021.
It was not an ideal situation for anybody.
As @andypandy has said they have had an impossible job, in which it is easy to pick holes after the fact...

 

I think the stats on deaths bear out that they have consistently done too little too late, but they have a chance to redeem themselves with the vaccine and, so far, they have been excellent in how they have invested in and secured doses with Pfizer and Oxford and ensured early approval, so top marks.

All I’m saying is that they keep reversing their public position. They criticise Starmer and then two days later do exactly what he was suggesting.

in other words they keep falling into holes they themselves are digging.