Corona Virus

Well your ‘noodling’ conflates separate issues. You need to tease out the various strands to identify multiple different causes and their effects to deploy assets to maximal effect.
Covid alone is not overloading the NHS. Covid is driving national economic, social and health policy. I merely contend genuine debate will get the optimal solution sooner.

 

How can you write something like that? You haven't read NHS people comments here?

 

Actually I have and you can’t be understanding my meaning. I am not denying effects. I am questioning balance of causation.

 

What colour was it?

 

Got you another from Planet Reality. What the expletive deleted does our useless, deceptive government think it’s doing?



oh but they’re different......not!

 

Absolutely true. The NHS hasn’t stopped working because of Covid, we are still taking medical emergencies, critical illnesses, cancers and urgent surgeries, accidents, trauma... and let’s not forget the seasonal increased pressures. But in all the flu seasons I’ve known, I haven’t known things such as blanket cessation of elective non-urgent surgery... or the same amount of flu victims on respiratory support as we have Covid victims atm.

People can have a few circular arguments if they like... less flu due to Covid being “dominant”, more staffing issues due to Covid restrictions etc. It’s right to have these discussions, the health service should be checked to ensure appropriate action is being taken. As a nurse, I was alway taught to question the reason why and not do something because we’ve always done it this way. So I would rather see discussion over a lot of topics.

But I still see what I see, and in my little part of the world, Covid is the dominant issue for my health service and it needs management...

 

https://virologydownunder.com/the-false-positive-pcr-problem-is-not-a-problem/

 

Yes but what does he know about PCR tests?

Has he ever been a lawyer (OK, almost-lawyer) from the military? Is this a matter in his own personal knowledge? I bet he isn’t even curious

 

And yet another graph

 

Have I?

Anyway, the Beeb figures don’t appear to be population adjusted....just as a cynic might expect.

 

A cynic wouldn’t bother to look at the BBC, which has this comment and graphic just below:

When the age and size of the population is taken into account, 2020 saw the worst death rates since the 2000s.

This measure - known as age-standardised mortality - takes into account population growth and age.




But then a cynic wouldn’t be curious

 

So what’s your expertise in this field Figwold?
We’re all dying to know.

 

This measure - known as age-standardised mortality - takes into account population growth and age.


Covid: 2020 saw most excess deaths since World War Two https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55631693

 

I don’t claim any Tom, which’s why I tend to believe the experts. What’s your’s?

 

Spotting bullshitters.

 

Was that a typo Tom...?

“spouting bullshit”

blessed autocorrect

 

Figwold’s fundamental problem is that he hates gadflies. He likes to lead a humdrum life untroubled by awkward questions and he faithfully swallows whatever bilge he is fed by those in authority because he has a childlike faith in their truthfulness and benevolence. Consequently his ‘experts’ are invariably those that feed his prejudices rather than inform a wider debate. Contrary views can safely be rejected, even mocked, because they are uncomfortable. Truth doesn’t come into it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadfly_(philosophy_and_social_science)

 

And?

 

It takes into account population growth and age

 

Your reply nailed it Figwold