Corona Virus

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  1. figwold

    figwold First Class Member

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    James influenza is NOT a coronavirus. According to CDC:

    What is the difference between Influenza (Flu) and COVID-19? Influenza (Flu) and COVID-19 are both contagious respiratory illnesses, but they are caused by different viruses. COVID-19 is caused by infection with a new coronavirus (called SARS-CoV-2), and flu is caused by infection with influenza viruses.
     
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  2. Tom Gillam

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    #2662 Tom Gillam, Jan 6, 2021
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    Doctors are stupid, no one is under respirator, and yes we know PCR test are inaccurate, but once the patient is ill from COVID, there are several signs that don't make it look like a flu.

    Whatever,
    My cousin,his wife and son all had Covid last month,with no serious effects. I saw them when they came over at Christmas and didn’t have any problem about being in contact with them.The vast and I do mean vast majority of people that catch this don’t die!That’s an irrefutable fact!
    What’s more,when rna viruses mutate,they may become more infectious,but they also tend to become less virulent.
    Therefore,I’m very much hoping that the new variant causes less problems than the last version.[/QUOTE]
     
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  3. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    And from that story up to "it's a flu"??

    A bit inconsistent isn't it?
     
  4. Tom Gillam

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    And they’re both rna viruses even though they’re different
     
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  5. figwold

    figwold First Class Member

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    Are you sure Tom? I thought 90% of the three of them were false positives.;)
     
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  6. andypandy

    andypandy Crème de la Crème

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  7. DCS222

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    yes... my bad! Flu is not a coronavirus by definition (I think figgy has pointed that out) it has the appearance of the “crown of thorns” that a corona virus has (and is named after). You are absolutely right about that and I humbly apologise.

    your post #2811 seems to suggest that COVID-19 is of minimal threat to the vast majority who get it..? Ok, but what if lots and lots and lots of people get if? Maybe the death toll as a percentage of the people who have it appear low, but it is a significant and rising amount of “excess deaths” Please don’t mistake Covid as being insignificant
     
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  8. Tom Gillam

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    I didn’t say Covid was insignificant,I tried to explain that flu is and has been a major killer,in fact I had my jab yesterday.
    When you take into account all the people flu has killed,Covid has a very long way to catch up.
    Spanish flu killed many millions,it was far worse than this present Covid outbreak and sadly killed many more able bodied people than Covid.
    Covid is a serious problem,but there are those who would have people believe that it’s far worse,whereas ,in the scheme of things,it isn’t.
     
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  9. DCS222

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    Just don’t underestimate the virus... The worst mistake would be to have the chance to make a difference and through ignorance/poor judgement we end up killing more people than necessary. And yes, I know the same can be said of the economy... it’s a series of very difficult decisions and timing! That’s why we vote for people to make priority choices for us!
     
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  10. dilligaf

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    The economy can recover :)
    Dead people can’t :(
     
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  11. Sandi T

    Sandi T It's ride o'clock somewhere!
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  12. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Here’s the guy that co-wrote the standard virology textbook gently dismantling the UK/Vallance version of terrifying mutants. It’s normal and pretty insignificant including claims of dramatic increases in transmission.



    SARS Cov2 virus
    Covid 19 the disease it causes
     
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  13. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Sorry couldn't find a pig.
     
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  14. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    Not bored, just reallyt interested in the differing views and comments. I will keep on reading.....
     
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  15. Hubaxe

    Hubaxe Good moaning! aka Mr Wordsalad :)

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    Well you are probably right, and I accept @DCS222 disagreement.
    Maybe just me...I'm bored because I know that Cal's intention is to drag it back again into his fantasist theories. (oh no, I'm making predictions too!!)
    So, now all yours guys. :)
     
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  16. DCS222

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    An interesting watch, went pretty deep at one point but still followable. He brought up the issues with the PCR tests and the confusion that drawing biological results from epidemiology data can bring. Also, following the confirmation that 80% of transmission is caused by 10% of infected individuals (superspreaders) He also touched upon ways of mitigating the “r” rate of the virus (masking, distancing and lockdown) and that the way to get ahead of this pandemic is by the vaccination programs.

    sound chap, good to watch
     
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  17. Stephen Martin

    Stephen Martin Senior Member

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    So masking, distracting, lockdown, and vaccination is the same as the government has said well I'll be damned that will upset a lot of people.
     
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  18. DCS222

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    Only the ones that hear it, but don't want to hear it... the same is true of the PCR testing, it doesn't measure infective virus, but people don't want to hear that either.
     
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  19. DCS222

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    Another point of reference from my hospitals Trust is that we've just announced cancellation of non-urgent routine elective surgery due to the increase of hospital admissions (covid and non-covid) AND the highest number of patients in our ICU beds since the start of the pandemic. I suspect Covid wards and staff redeployment is next...
     
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  20. figwold

    figwold First Class Member

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