Corona Virus

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  1. Steve 998cc

    Steve 998cc Well-Known Member

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    Those that can do, do. those that can't teach , talk and write method statements that inevitably don't work on a practice.
     
  2. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    New Year New Zealand, Covid free.
     
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  3. Rooster

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    Just been out for a walk with friends who’s son has been working as an English teacher in China since last March. He is 26 and has just had his first mandatory Covid Vaccine jab.
     
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  4. Sprinter

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    These two cases had Covid added as secondary causes.
    I would think that GP's have been asked to indicate Covid on the Death Cert. as a precaution, if there is any chance of infection, for the safety of the men or women who came next in the line of duty. The morticians and undertakers.
    At no time were the relatives informed of a test being carried out. Thus doing no harm and keeping the vulnerable safe.
    This is pure speculation on the part of the relatives that told me this, and so, also now on my part.

    This is why I did not include it in the first post My error I think. Although I am sure we all know that I have no grounding in any of these fields.
    So all of my posts are second hand and uncorroborated speculation. A liberty I allow myself while talking about Covid, on a Triumph Forum.
     
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  5. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    Do you have an example where a hospital has had to adhere to this model then?
     
  6. Sprinter

    Sprinter Kinigit

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    We are so deeply into this Pandemic, and being pulled this way and that, by well meaning , frequently updated leaders, that there is no chance we are any where near a point, that any single one of them, or any of their detractors, would have lead us to.
    Here we are doing the best we can with a situation,.
    Familiar ground, be it Brexit, Bonneville gearing issues, Trump,or Forum principles.
    Happy New Year.and many more.
     
  7. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Not exactly but kind of.....

    You see the military hold reserves for the unexpected - often low probability high impact events. Hospitals used to do the same with beds and ancillaries, PPE, that kind of thing. Ring any bells?
     
  8. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    They still do as far as I’m aware. The issue is lead time for replenishment in the event that standard holding levels are depleted. This was my point earlier regarding supply issues when there is a global requirement for “stuff”. One off critical events can be managed much more easily. Situations where there is a significant event that disrupts the supply chain will always cause issues. The government makes plans for supply of critical infrastructure and supplies in the event of a significant incident, not however on this scale.
     
  9. Callumity

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    And all too often these call off contracts put a tick in the box but the ‘flash to bang’ response is wholly unrealistic. The simple truth is you can’t outsource risk. Insurance simply monetises losses.
     
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  10. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    You can outsource risk, the decision is what price you are prepared to pay because the better the risk mitigation, the higher the price.
     
  11. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Not on a battlefield or, arguably, in a hospital. Some prices are too high and can’t be priced.
     
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  12. TillyB

    TillyB Active Member

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    If there is risk, it can be priced. Risk is something that may happen that has consequences and a mitigation. The cost of the mitigation is what we assess.
     
  13. Rooster

    Rooster Grumpy Member
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  14. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Meanwhile, away from the propaganda,

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    2020 wasn’t exceptional. But we had a nasty bug. And maybe didn’t handle it too well.
     
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  15. andypandy

    andypandy Crème de la Crème

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    On the other hand, maybe it could have been handled worse and the death rate could have been much higher. Maybe.
    Looking at the graph, I assume 2006 was the last bad flu year.
     
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  16. DCS222

    DCS222 Guest

    maybe we did?
     
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  17. Smilinjack

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    I tend to be leaning towards the "Covid is real and threatening" view largely because my sons, both health professionals on opposite sides of the world, tell me so. Whether it's as bad as some say, l have no idea. However, the question l put to the naysayers some months ago remains unanswered. Why has the WORLDWIDE response to this situation been so similar? (Let's keep Sweden to one side for the moment) Do governments really have no care about trashing their economies with all the potential social ills that could precipitate? Is it a socially engineered updraught of wealth? In short, what is the endgame? :)
     
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  18. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    That was the same question I asked some time ago Alan. I cannot believe that those in power would kill their economies for fun.
     
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  19. Tom Gillam

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    A nasty bug,sums it up pretty well,those that are meant to be leading and governing this country are in panic meltdown.
    The hysteria that is being generated is hard to accept,however when you have the likes of Neil Ferguson,a physicist with an appalling record of failure with his modelling fiascos,advising government,what on earth should we expect?
    The powers that be are telling us that we should wait until we’re all vaccinated before we can resume “normal” life and yet the vaccination program is way behind the 2million a week requirement to meet the April deadline(no pun intended).
    So we’re expected to twiddle our thumbs and watch,whilst they are covering their political arses and probably make things worse,(god help us).
    I am truly sorry for anyone who’s lost loved ones or friends,
    but I believe that most of us have had enough of the authorities lies.
     
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  20. Smilinjack

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    Yep, fair enough. It's cost me a fair bit of money too l might add. However, this situation, and in varying degrees the response to it, is worldwide. Are the Germans,French, Spanish et al, similarly inept and panic stricken? It's a pretty big coincidence. :)
     
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