Corona Virus

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  1. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    No, they got the right address but sadly too late for poor old Dozer. Some bloke (in Oz?) is credibly reported to have submitted tests swabbed from his two Labradors. Needless to say they both came back positive.
     
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  2. Callumity

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    Amen - because the politicians and supposed experts don’t know how to climb down from the facade they have built.
     
  3. Rocker

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    Yeah I did it went straight through the shredder
     
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  4. Wessa

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    So back to the basic question, do we need to restrict people mixing to prevent mass transmission; in my mind the answer is yes...
     
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  5. Callumity

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    No. All of the emerging evidence is that the test is pretty unreliable with masses of false positives. There is far greater natural immunity than previously supposed. The fatal infections are overwhelmingly amongst people with compromised health many of whom were infected in hospital.

    The Government has cocked up in taking such narrow advice from too many ‘experts’ far too compromised by their proximity to pharmaceutical interests and paralysed by group think. The original error was compounded by hiring consultants at massive expense to do what underfunded local public health teams do vastly better....see Cumbria.

    Protect those with known health issues and halt the injury to thousands of others awaiting cancer treatment, surgery, psychiatric help etc., etc. Covid target fixation is killing many more than it nominally saves.
     
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  6. Judd Dredd

    Judd Dredd Giver of Drugs, Vaccines and Hard Truths

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  7. Judd Dredd

    Judd Dredd Giver of Drugs, Vaccines and Hard Truths

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  8. Callumity

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    .......but it has been and plenty of hospitals have been half empty with idle capacity.
     
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  9. Rocker

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    Defo they sent me 2 what the feck is that all about
     
  10. Rocker

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    Mate I couldn't understand it I know I'm part Scottish but I've only got 5 fingers :neutral::joy:
     
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  11. Pegscraper

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    No one is saying that full or parshall lockdowns will stop the spread of the virus. What they have been proven to do is slow it's spread and prevent the NHS being "overwelmed", a phrase we hear a lot on the news, with hospitals being filled leaving no spare capacity for emerging cases or any other illness's/accidents. This is a situation that will increase the death toll substantially as many who could be saved by hospital treatment will succumb. This is the big "worry" the government is desperate to avoid, made worse by the fast approaching Flu season.
     
  12. Wessa

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    I think that there have been strong responses to what we should/should not do and how we should respond to the virus. Like you I’m not defending the government just trying to understand what the impacts are, and that is really difficult given the conflicting views. I guess we all need to wait and see what happens over the coming weeks and months.
     
  13. Callumity

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    There is simply no such proof. The press Sky/BBC Torygraph have mostly failed to challenge unsubstantiated assertions. The Government actually has no general power to lock us all down. Known carriers and premises, yes.

    Listen to Professor Levitt of Stanford Nobel Prize for Science winner.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1277543879793836032/video/1

    - one of the few who called this thing correctly back in February

    - correctly identified a population fatality rate of 0.04 to 0.05%, largely regardless of lockdown

    - and how science has let us all down by bowing to political pressure and not having an open debate.

    Downing St got panicked by a mathematician who modelled up to 1.5m deaths..... but he (Ferguson) has a history of being spectacularly wrong
     
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  14. Rocker

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    Let my guard down dame the red wine :joy:
     
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  15. Judd Dredd

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  16. Rocker

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    Official stats are 0.11
    0.11 so lockdown is like keeping the class in because little Jonnie burnt the chemistry lab to the ground :rolleyes:
     
  17. Judd Dredd

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  18. Callumity

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    The enumeration comes down to death certificates and attribution of cause. We have plenty of Covid deaths where multiple other co-morbidities existed. The ‘pure’ (horrible word) rate for otherwise healthy people is really quite low as analysis of the stats shows many dying with Covid but few purely of Covid. You will appreciate it can be a moot point about which straw was the breaker.....
     
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  19. Rocker

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    Most of those who have died had underlying medical problems also the covid followed a low flu death rate year anyway what are you saying I don't give a fuck about the 50 thousand I do I didn't bring this on the world but the current measures are wrong
     
  20. Rocker

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    What a sheltered life you've led in the six finger county have you never frozen red wine dipped it in batter then while it's still warm drizzled a chocolate and iron bru aujus over washed down with drain cleaner of your choice :)
     
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