NMWanderer. Some of those peeps are fantastic people. I found with them you leave them alone and they respect you. Like you I rode with a few clubs never joined any. They used my garage and tools to work on their bikes. But great people. I needed a microwave a long time ago they supplied me one from their clubhouse still with beans in it. I had a couple of tail rags steal two nice gold plated watches from me and like you said they said we will take care of it for you Joe. Two days later the watches dropped through my letterbox with a letter of apologize. So all in all Live and Let Live. Regards Joe.