What Have We Become?

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Biker Jock, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Biker Jock

    Biker Jock Senior Member

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    I didn't vote for our local MP. He is a conservative, and I haven't voted conservative for a very long time (certainly pre-Thatcher). But he is a good man, who has represented and served his constituency well, and has taken the time to answer, fully and honestly, the two or three emails I have sent him over the years. He is a military man, who has served his country in Kosovo, Bosnia and Afghanistan, and who is a colonel in the reserves. I don't agree with his party's policies, but he has worked hard for us, and I respect him for that.

    Today he has announced that, because of the abuse and death threats he has received recently, he is not prepared to stand as a candidate in the general election. Is that how we change things now? Not by argument and (sometimes heated) debate, but by vile abuse and issuing cowardly death threats to anyone we don't agree with.

    I'm saddened by the news that our MP isn't standing for reelection, even though I still wouldn't have voted for him (but that's the game - you get your punt at choosing your MP, win or lose). If I met him in the pub, I'd shake his hand, offer to get a drink in, and argue politics with him. I'm simultaneously sad, angry and fearful that people think the only way is hate, abuse and death threats, or worse. There are too many good MPs giving up now for that reason, with our local MP being the latest, and I genuinely fear for the future of this country.

    And it's not just happening in politics - Strictly Come Dancing competitors are getting it too, it seems. What have we become?
     
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  2. MadMrB

    MadMrB Elite Member

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    #2 MadMrB, Nov 5, 2019
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    I think too many of those that are standing down are doing so because they know they will not be reelected, due to betraying the majority of thier constituents, and they claim victimhood because they can't admit to the real reason.

    I agree there is too much hate and animosity, but that has always been a tactic of the left, and it has only increased and intensified in recent years as a method of shutting down debate and silencing opposing opinions. Labour and the left continually use identity politics of race, gender, religion, or any other attribute to try to attack people and silence them.

    A prime example...
     
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  3. Helmut Visor

    Helmut Visor Only dead fish go with the flow
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    I agree with you mate, there are actually a few good MP's who are genuinely engaged with their constituency and generally work hard to get the best for their constituents. They tend to be people who have come to politics after a successful career elsewhere and just do their job without jumping all over all the different media outlets.
    However, regardless of how you feel about them or their politics, it is absolutely unacceptable to hound them out of their positions with vile and unwarranted threats. Keyboard warriors need to be called out and given harsh sentences and only when that happens can this ridiculous situation be changed, but even with the death an MP it seems there is no appetite to upset the liberal applecart and "violate" their rights.....the rights of those really trying to work for the betterment of their area however appears unimportant :mad::mad:
     
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  4. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    Got to agree mate. Our local MP went against her constituents who voted leave, lost the whip following the brexit vote against the deal and has now defected to the Liberal's. WTF is that all about.
     
  5. feckless

    feckless Noble Member

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    Oh no more politics :sob::sob:
     
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  6. JerryBB

    JerryBB Noble Member

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    there is a lot of very nasty cyber bullying these days, beyond believe just how vile some of it is, it has driven some younger people to suicide. I am not surprised so many politicians are leaving this election without standing again, death threats and threats of rape for their wives and daughters is I believe commonplace.

    Glad we don't get that here on this forum...
     
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  7. Baben

    Baben Active Member

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    Basically the abusers are cowards and are brave because they are anonymous. If they knew you could identify them and come round theirs with a few mates then there would be a helluva a lot less abuse online.
     
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  8. triumph900

    triumph900 Active Member

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    Wow. I thought we in the US had cornered the political craziness market.
     
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    triumph900 Active Member

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    Wow. I thought we in the US had cornered the political craziness market.
     
  10. Wessa

    Wessa Cruising

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    No chance this bunch over here take the biscuit when it comes to crazy..
     
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  11. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Sad indictment how the UK is, violence is the new currency, until the judiciary impose meaningful sentencing it will continue. I was filling up my car a few weeks back, around 25 scum on scooters pull in pop in the petrol station shop taking whatever they fancied. Rightly so the minimum wage assistant left them to it. The undercurrent of a generation who do what they want without fear or consequence.
     
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