To all you parents who ride bikes

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  1. Havit

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    Here's an interesting one . If you put a child on the back of a bike, are you being irresponsible ? Knowing the dangers of idiot drivers and the like, is it bad parenting to allow a child on the back?
     
  2. Havit

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    Sound advise, but did you ever think your putting your flesh and blood at high risk letting them on the back,
     
  3. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    This is not a practical question, it's a morale one.The problem is, where & when do you stop protecting your children. Don't they need to learn some personal responsibility for their own safety?
     
  4. Havit

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    I'm trying to see both sides of this question, I have fond memories going on the back of my dads bike and in his sidecar before that, but on the other hand I was nearly killed along with my girlfriend at the time by a hit and run driver, if that had happen with my kid on the back would I forgive myself? The if onlys then are to late, I still feel for the girl I had on the back. She went through hell God knows how many ops and scares . Even though it wasn't my fault.
     
  5. Havit

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    I agree to a degree , but as a parent you are responsible for there safety, I don't mean rap them up in cotton wool but you have to take into account the risks involved in live traffic
     
  6. Havit

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    My own thoughts on this is , when you see the news on the TV and you see people on there holidays being mowed down by some nutcase on a beach, if your in the wrong place at the wrong time it's going to happen, be it on a bike or on a beach, life is one big risk.if your numbers up its up. I would let my kids on the back, there mum won't.....
     
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  7. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    You're responsible for your own safety as well. If you get hurt/killed it'll affect them worse. If you accept the stats no-one would ride a bike, but we do. And most of us survive most of the time.
     
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  8. Tigcraft

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    It's a good discussion keep it going. Eric
     
  9. Havit

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    I suppose us as bikers would have a positive view of biking where maybe someone who doesn't would think they are dangerous and wouldn't dream of putting there child on one. That said I do agree with you half ton, you never stop being a parent and worrying about them. It's natural to do that. To have two sons both riding bikes ( following in there dad's footsteps) would worry any parent because you ride and you see the dangers. As an experienced rider you judge better. We all made mistakes as novices and you do learn from them. So they have to go through that stage of riding and you can only hope they get through it without to many misjudgments or falls.
     
  10. crispey

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    I knew someone whose son played and loved rugby, he played it for years then broke his neck during a game when he was around 14, did his parents blame themselves? No, their son was doing something he loved, and still loves. I didn't stop my sons from playing, yes you became more wary and worried but life is life, do you stop them walking to school or drive miles to avoid accident black spots. If you take anyone on the back of your bike you are responsible for their safety and should ride accordingly. If you are too worried and that is what is mainly on your mind, don't do it, as you will be too preoccupied with that and you will probably have an accident of your own making before some idiot gets to knock you off!
     
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  11. thebiglad

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    Hallelujah !
     
  12. Havit

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    Your right big lad, in everything we do there's risk. As I said before you can't rap kids up in cotton wool, kid learn by there mistakes so do we, in fact we never stop learning. Yes we will get hurt sometimes . As parents we can only advise and hope they listen . I know if my kids went on a bike they would get the bug the same way we all did. Is that wrong not to let them ride pillion or ride a off road bike? I think it is.
     
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  13. roadrider

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    I agree,you can't wrap kid's up in cotton wool and there are always risks in just about anything.
    My dad hated motorbikes with a passion but it didn't stop me riding,though I did give him some justification when I was a teenager.
    My kids have never shown any interest in riding,but I wouldn't stop them(though it would probably worry me) if they wanted to.
    Both me and my wife ride and the "what if" question came up,you can't not live your life or stop doing something just because there are risks.
    So take them on the back if they want to go but take appropriate measures to make it as safe as you can.

    If you want worry,watch your 20 year old daughter go to Tenerefe with her mates for the first time :eek:
     
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  14. folkbloke

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    Every time you get on a bike you're putting yourself at risk. As BL Dave said, if you went by the stats you'd never ride again. I never encouraged or discouraged my step-daughters to ride or ever took them pillion but somehow they've both ended up with partners who ride bikes and have both ridden pillion.

    It was very odd when one of them was living in London and came down to visit us on a bike. When they were leaving I had to admit to being a little concerned as they rode off. I wonder if my mum and dad thought that as well when I visited them?

    I get more concerned about folks who cycle with kids in seats on the back. The state of the roads makes riding a pushbike a dangerous occupation let alone the traffic.
     
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  15. Tigcraft

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    Yes that's a good point, pedal bikes are not up to carrying passengers compared to m/c's so at least side by side the m/c wins.
     
  16. steve lovatt

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    Always a difficult question I suppose - when do you ever stop worrying about your kids?
    That said I have taken my 16 year old son pillion and he has his own 50cc moped to get to college on.
    I do worry what would happen if I had an accident with a passenger and I have to be honest, I don't really enjoy anyone riding pillion both for that reason and the fact I like being on the bike on my own.
     
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  17. Havit

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    I hear you on that one, I still feel guilty about the poor girl I had pillion when I was in the hit and run crash, I was the innocent party but I felt responsible for her. She still carries the scares of the accident which look worse on a girl than a bloke, she had 16 breaks in the lower leg plus her other leg Broke at the top . Both legs were operated on and she had a number of ops after, I struggle with that, yet the guy who done it reported his car stolen after drinking himself silly. He then told the police when they asked about the accident to prove it. He had no thought of the two people he left in agony on the footpath with broken bones and smashed up bike.some people ah. That is why I asked the question, I think as I said earlier it's all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Still doesn't make it any easier, you have to live with it.
     
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  18. Dodge74

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    I can appreciate where you're coming from , I guess if someone else gets injured from doing something that you're directly involved in it's always going to be difficult to live with . Back in 2003 when I was motorbike racing , I came off my bike & a guy who was following crashed into me. I was pretty badly knocked up & had to be rescusitated & taken off to A&E & I heard later that he was so badly affected by it that he retired from racing , which to be honest made me feel pretty bad . I did make contact with him to say not to do that on my account , but it had obviously got to him quite bad . The fact of the matter is , we all do these things that have an element of danger mixed with excitement , sometimes it goes wrong & someone gets hurt , but if we didn't do this sort of stuff life would be a dull as dishwater & not worth the bother so the risks are always worth it
     
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  19. Havit

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    Yes the spills come with the thrills.it's just harder when it effects somebody else. But your point is taken.
     
  20. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I don't take peeps on the bike nowadays, but when I used to I always adopted the mindset of "precious cargo - do not drop"
     
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