Trident something missing in the garage

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  1. TOBY

    TOBY New Member

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    #1 TOBY, Oct 6, 2015
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    Had a bit of a do with my back last year so sold my RS and Trident i had and thought that was it for me.
    I'm gonna give it another go even if some days I will only be able look at my Trident/Legend/Thunderbird and that's the thing.
    I was going to get a Trident but then 'sprag' comes to mind then thought of a Thunderbird or a Legend.Do they have 'Sprag' issue's ?, did I read somewhere Triumph uprated the Sprag Clutch in later models ?, any thoughts,any advice appreciated.
    Mick
     
  2. Recycled Rocker

    Recycled Rocker Senior Member

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    Yo Toby, welcome aboard, there will be others along in a minute about sprag clutches. Well done, glad yer back, I often go and have a look in garage. I did this (and probably will again) with a 1966 Tiger 90, even tho I had a 2009 Bonnie as well. Still riding and an eye out for another 60's job. ;)
     
  3. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi Toby and welcome back to the Triumph fold. We can't stay away for too long can we?
     
  4. stevethegoolie

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    Hi Toby, and welcome! :)
    I have had my '95 Trident 900 from new (20 years and counting!). Mileage is currently just shy of 49,500. As yet (and I may be tempting fate just a teenzy bit here) I have had no problems with the starter sprag clutch. They were uprated around '95 I do believe, though I've no idea if mine is one of them. Earlier (grey) engines had a cover above the crankcase to give access to the sprag, later one do not and thus cost a fortune to repair (engine out and pull it to bits I believe). The secret is to keep the battery in good condition, as the engine may kick back against the starter if the battery is week and only spinning the engine slowly (imagine kickstarting an older bike - if it kicks back it may break your ankle, so it's the same with leccy starters. And Triumph are not alone in this!).
    Other than that, change the oil and filter regularly (mine's on Halfords fully synth at the moment) and mix Redex, or similar, with the petrol to keep the carbs etc clean, especially for over wintering - works for me!
    If you can get into the air filter box, and they are VERY brittle, stick a K&N filter in as a 'fit and forget' measure. If you do it, you'll see why!! :mad: And if you do, it may be worth changing the carb rubbers at the same time! This is a fiddly job - on a good day! :mad::mad:
    Some have had problems with the front fork seals, though again I've been lucky. Just keep the forks clean and well polished.
    I have a Hagon rear shock on mine with Hagon front fork springs. Seems good to me.
    Hope that is helpful ... no doubt I've forgotten summat!! :oops:
     
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  5. TOBY

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    Thanks all.Steve some very good info.their, I thought the sprag was uprated at sum point and Recycled Rocker yer a man after my own heart love those 60's triumph's had a few in my time.Thebiglad yes I found my world is kinda empty after my bike's went I've had them most of my life so need something in the garage to keep my spirit's up, knowing that something is there will give me a lift.
    Like I said thought of a Trident 900 but really nice ones are getting hard to get hold of, then thought of a Thunderbird 900 but all that chrome a bit ott for me, so the Legend i'm thinking now and the thing with these Thunderbirds, Legends you can get them in virtually showroom condition.Having to wait though I really need to sell the house first could be tempted though in fact put a cheeky offer in on a Legend with MCN but I should wait as funds not great a the moment.Cheers
    Mick
     
  6. steve lovatt

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    Agree with everything Steve says about the Trident. Mine is an earlier one with the grey casing and the access panel but has had the sprag replaced anyway. Keep the battery charged, pull in the clutch when starting and you should have no problems.
    (The airbox is a bugger though!)
     
  7. Recycled Rocker

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  8. TOBY

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    Steve Lovatt....had some experiance as owned a 900 Sprint and 750 Trident not had a problem with the Sprag but these bikes are really knocking on now and would be devistating to me if the engine had to be stripped ( the cost at the stealer ).Yes the early one's would be the best to go for but thinking Erganomics as well and the Legend looks better for me in that respect. Recycled Rocker.....Good shop as you say and great when you have that near you, eventually will be moving to Blyth North-ld. will have a look around when I get there, the experiance you can get with a good dealer is just the best thing you can have.
    That Green Legend is rather nice ( green and Triumph's seem to go together really well ) and their is a number of similer Legend's around most in very good nick. not a popular as the Thunderbird it seems but apparantly much the same bike.Nice one in MCN if you like the red silver colour for 3k he would take £2850 for it which is a very good price, I would have had it but a bit streached at the moment. Can't get away with the Adventurer though perhap's i'm not a cruiser person.
    Mick
     
  9. Havit

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    #9 Havit, Oct 7, 2015
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    • Well Toby how's it going, as a Thunderbird 900 owner, I have to agree with the same comments as the Trident. Air box, carb rubbers. The oil seals were ok but dust seals I have had to replace, ( just note there are two types of forks with 1 MM diameter difference) those who have followed my rebuild would know that when I picked up my T bird she was a mess. I would guess that if something was bad it would have been showing up on this one .She was not maintained, There seems to be no issues with the spang and mines a 95. As for the Chrome, it depends who owned it and how they looked after it. If it's been garaged and cleaned you should have no issues. If its been used and left to the weather then like any bike it will suffer from rust and corrosion. As for the ride itself. Very comfy, it's not a bike to play catch up on when your mates shoot off, it can do it, but the wind buffing is not nice unless you get a screen. With the air box you will have to take the carbs out to change it as the box sits between the centre frame. They say the later model carbs are better, but I can't comment on that as I have not ridden one. If your the type who enjoys a nice leisurely ride, this is a bike that will fit the bill. Although a tad heavy as no plastic . If you do go down this root try and find one with a centre stand as they are silly money on E Bay.
     
  10. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Wow Bikerman, the same bike for 20 yrs - you really must love it !
     
  11. Havit

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    I can See why you had it so long, These bikes are keepers. Great fun to ride.
     
  12. stevethegoolie

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    Blimey!!! I could have written that (and indeed have done so in the past) about my Trident!! :eek:
    There must be something about these early triples which compels some of us to hang on to them. I think the longest I'd owned a bike previously was just under 4 years with a Suzuki GT550J and about the same with a BMW R100RS.

    So it would seem that Bikerman and I are in a 20 year ownership rut (bought my bike around mid August 1995, all lovely and new and shiny), but is there anyone else out there with a similar/longer length of ownership? :cool:
    Just curious/nosey! :p
     
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  13. Havit

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    Have you got a copper coloured top?
     
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  14. TOBY

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    Yes I too can see why you hang on to them people who havn't tried these early Hinkley Triples don't understand also you get the one's that don't want to understand. I think people are catching on though prices are on the up
    Always wanted a Trident 900 but i'm being swayed with the Thundebird and Legend but more pricey, see what the coming months bring.
     
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  15. stevethegoolie

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    Thudderbirds/Leg Ends have 69 bhp, Thudderbird Sport has 89 bhp, Trident has 98 bhp!! :eek::D:):cool: Fnaaarrrrr Fnaaarrrr!! (All approximate figures, but you get the picture!). ;)

    Just saying! :p
     
  16. Havit

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    Just
    Just enjoy the ride
     
  17. TOBY

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    BHP is how fast you hit the wall
    Torque is how far you take it with you

    In other words BHP is for those that want to go screaming around at warp speed ( didn't know you were the type Steavethegoolie ;) ).Torque is for those who want to open the throttle in top for an arm pulling overtake

    Thunderbirds,Legends I would have thought have bucketfulls of Torque and probably outdo the Trident in that respect not to say though that the Trident is shy with the Torque figures, I remember the sprint 900 would pull like a train.

    The only drawback with high Torque and low BHP is it will run out of steam earlier but dosen't bother me I'm 63 and quite happy to "just enjoy the ride" riding the Torque wave.

    I had an RS for a while fuel injection and all that thought it's about time I caught up a bit with the present but not really to impressed also tried the Tiger800 at the Stealer a while ago equally unimpressed they didn't have that arm pulling Torque which my Sprint 900 had and guess that's why the modern V-Twins are popular.So whatever 900 you ride their all good :cool:

    Mick
     
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    I was wrong about the Torque ( I'm no Sam Lovegrove ) as aparantly the Trident has more ...61ft-Ib as opposed to the Thunderbird etc. which has 53.1.
     
  19. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    You just can't get the staff nowadays - youngsters eh? ;););):D:D:D:D:D
     
  20. stevethegoolie

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    I was thinking along those lines (Smartarse? Moi? Oh, fairy nuff!! :(:p) myself!!
    The Trident engine is a beauty for an all rounder, though how it compares on the road to Thunderbirds I know not! If it gives pleasure, then all is well. :)
    And yes! Over the last couple of years I have slowed down quite a bit. My 'need for speed' disappeared with my Daytona 955i Centennial. :( Long story, but poor health meant I couldn't do it justice (assuming that I ever could - which I couldn't!) and my riding was heavily curtailed as a result, so it was totally wasted on me. It now lives happily in the Severn Valley area.
    My first ever state pension payment is due next week, so old fartism :cool: is upon me, though I haven't slowed down THAT much! :p:D:D
     
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