Snapped key, in barrel, with steering lock on....ffs

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Vladthetodge, Dec 2, 2016.

  1. Vladthetodge

    Vladthetodge Member

    Apr 27, 2016
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    Hey all. as title says, oops!
    Went to get on doris this morning , noticed half of key missing. now, last night I put steering lock on as usual and went in house , thinking all good.

    I know it's prob a dealer only thing, and no I haven't got the manual with the key code, I know....... no need to tell me. anyhoo, do any of you wonderful people have any idea of dealer process in getting a new key and barrel fitted, and is there a secret other option that won't cost a mortgage, as I suspect the dealer will? at the moment the poor girl can't even get out to be collected unless you lift and drag her heavy carcass a long long way....

    Thank you all... and let the piss taking commence.... I probably deserve it :rolleyes:
     
  2. Vladthetodge

    Vladthetodge Member

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    Genius! I'll have the maintenance boys at work see if they've got one I rekon they will and I'll have a go. will check if key magnetic first tho.
     
  3. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Hey Todge,
    Just remove the barrel and throw it away, I do it on every bike I Buy/Own ! As I've had the nasty experience (On a Laverda) of the barrel disintegrating and falling into the locked position whilst manoeuvering out of an underground car park! Nearly tossed me and the bike in a shite pile ! It's only worth a penny in comparison to your machine !!! And as an anti theft device forget it ! I"ve heard of guys breaking through some real heavy deterrents to get a bike, just buy a new key so you can still get the seat off, enjoy your machine and don't worry about it disappearing / being stolen. If someone wants it. It's gone !I insure mine that gives me all the peace of mind I need !!!!

    Cheers Mick
     
  4. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    Another good idea DD, you're like the 'Marge Proops' of the Triumph world! Lol
    Just be careful with them there magnets, I once forgot I had put a 25mm dia. Neo-dynium magnet in my pocket, nearly crushed mi bollocks when I went to unlock the car.
    It took the AA 2 hours to work out how to separate me from the car door.
     
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  5. t552

    t552 Senior Member

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    You will have a job to get the ignition off as they have shear bolts. I think your best way it remove the top yoke and then remove the barrel to work on it ( should be able to remove with a punch). Id take to a locksmith who can then remove and replace.
     
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  6. Vladthetodge

    Vladthetodge Member

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    WelI the key isn't magnetic. bugger. sound advice gents. I will have a go at getting barrel out tomorrow and see if a locksmith can extract key Monday and use the two halves to make a new one. fingers crossed....
     
  7. sprintdave

    sprintdave Nurse,he's out of bed again

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    Can you get the point of a needle in. You may be able to firk it out little by little . Worth a punt. I know it has worked before but depends how far in the key broke and how tight it fitted. I would think the key would be just a tiny bit proud of the barrel. Good luck mate. And no piss taking from me.
     
  8. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    Not being silly, but superglue...
    If careful. can you superglue a screwdriver to the end of the key and when set, remove it?

    Or; 3m adhesive pad, that would pull the key out depending on how much is exposed

    For a quick try you may be able to use blue tac, I have done it before with a door key
     
  9. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    Whats the best oil to put in the barrel as my key is really stiff? :eek: and don't want the same thing happening to me:rolleyes:
    i did put some wd40 in but it's not made any differance
     
  10. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    Fnar fnar:D:oops:
     
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  11. Vladthetodge

    Vladthetodge Member

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    Anyone heard of Richard at keymaster? been recommended by triumph dealer to use can't seem to locate on google
     
  12. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    Cheers Jez, i had a look and it seems to be discontinued..did see some other similar stuff so will order some
     
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  13. Dougie D

    Dougie D Crème de la Crème

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    Thats the one i ended up ordering! :)
     
  14. t552

    t552 Senior Member

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    I just use chain lube. Install the pipe and press
     
  15. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    WD 40 is a Water Displacing fluid, not a lubricant, a few drops of 3 in 1 should keep things operating nicely.
     
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  16. Vladthetodge

    Vladthetodge Member

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    She's alive! mwahahaha

    So. if you need a locksmith in Sheffield or surrounding areas then look for rtlocks.co.uk
    Richard came out, couldn't find other half of snapped key. 20 mins later a new key cut! 70 quid. rather happy now...
    Doris lives. odd that three days riding Kylie( my daelim 125) made me miss doris's grunt
    Can't recommend the guy enough
     
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  17. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    Been using it for years and never knew WD stood for that.
     
  18. sprintdave

    sprintdave Nurse,he's out of bed again

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    How did he get it out, could be useful for others ? If you could get it out yourself most key cutters could cut a key to suit from the main bit.
    Glad youre sorted tho.
     
  19. DreadySteve

    DreadySteve Well-Known Member

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    and the 40 means it was his (Norman Larsen) 40th attempt to get the formula right
     
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  20. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Yes apparently it was developed by the aero industry (NO, not the chocolate bar!) for removing/protecting airplane wings from ice.
     
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