Please help! 72 650 tiger engine. What frame is it in? Can't find a VIN

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  1. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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  2. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    The frame looks like the remains of a BSA.
     
  3. stevethegoolie

    stevethegoolie Elite Member

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    I would not trust an anonymous frame like that any further than I could throw it.
    Who made it?
    Are they competent at tube bending and welding?
    What grade of steel was used in its manufacture?
    Is it fit for purpose?
    Do you have a boat in need of an anchor?
    Is the world round?
    Is space infinite?
    Is my tea ready yet?

    Anyway, welcome in.:)

    As you may be able to tell, I have no idea what your frame is, but it has obviously been hacked about more than a little bit, so I would be very wary of it.:eek:

    Or am I just being over cautious?o_O
     
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  4. Modalconfusion

    Modalconfusion Active Member

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    If I was you I would look for a standard frame or a donor bike, it looks a bit pants
     
  5. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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    Thanks for all the help guys. I'm very excited about this bike. It's my first and my old man owned one similar. I'm going to get the frame sandblasted to try and find a vin. Also will be a good time to look a t the welds and decide if it's worth keeping.
     
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  6. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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    Found d the serial number. On the right front engine mount bracket.
    I can't read it.
    Any chance it looks familiar?

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  7. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Any one that owns up will be admitting bike theft!!! Hmm! I think your search will end there! What is the position with reging a bike with a nicked frame?
     
  8. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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    Why would you say it is stolen? Because the number was painted over?
    I appreciate all the help. I'm new to this and this is my first bike.
     
  9. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Hi and welcome - and good luck with this.
    Someone has tried to file off the number to make it untraceable - normally a sign that it's been stolen. :(
     
  10. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    Looking at your second pix i am sure that your frame is a BSA a75 Rocket Three front loop and the rest made up, the original number would have been on the left frame lug and that has been ground off :-(.
     
  11. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Sorry didn't mean to offend, it looked like the number had been ground off which was a popular practice way back in 70-80's with nicked bikes and jokingly thought someone in here might recognise their handywork!
     
  12. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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    I see what happened with the frame. I ground off more of the bondo and paint. The frame was chopped right above the front engine mounts and a different piece of tube was stuck in and welded. Talked to a guy in the city today that mentioned the heads are from a bonneville and the engine was indeed the 72 tiger. Front Brake from a 68. I'm in the process of stripping the bike to sandblast the frame. I'll keep you posted. 20160802_220114.jpg
     
  13. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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    It actually might just be the engine mount that was slid on this frame. Hmmm
     
  14. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    I took a pix of my Su's frame for you to compare with yours, as you can see on her frame there is a raised part with a flat surface that the numbers go on that is clearly missing on your frame :-(.

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  15. darkman

    darkman Crème de la Crème

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    The above would only apply if it is a A75 frame, it could also be an early A65 frame and the numbers would be on the headstock reinforcement plate on the left.
     
  16. Sceptic Al

    Sceptic Al Well-Known Member

    Hi Durantson. Alberta eh, (I'm jealous as f**k), a very nice bit of planet Earth.
    When you get it all the crap of the frame I would SERIOUSLY SUGGEST that you get the whole damned thing checked by someone whos up to speed with non-destructive testing such as magnetic particle or dye penetration are pretty good techniques or if you have loads of cash ultra-sonic testing. Speaking as someone who used to inspect steel work and pipe work for a living, some of the welding looks a bit suspect as does some of the corrosion. A competent repair shop should be able to sort out most of the problems with the frame.
    Just my opinion based on your photos but better safe than under a truck, and you have some bloody big trucks out in Alberta ;)
     
  17. Durantson

    Durantson New Member

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    I hope you guys know how awesome you are.

    Very happy to be here and soak up all this knowledge.

    Yeah we like our big trucks. Easy to get around the lease roads.

    Got the bike ready to turn over tonight. Just want to hear it run. Then I'll strip it. Just need to get a battery. The one I have is all dried up.

    Thanks again everybody!
     
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