Odd Speed Rs Hot Start Issue

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  1. Gitter

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    #1 Gitter, Jan 31, 2021
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    Had kind of a weird event happen when I stopped for fuel yesterday. Bike has about 250 miles on it, stopped for fuel and when I went to restart it, it would crank for a second and then everything would turn off, crank for a second, completely turn off, and repeated about 5 times, until the bike finally started. Rode home, tried to get it to recreate the issue and it wouldn't happen.

    First thought in my brain was that the negative battery cable was loose so I popped the cover off and checked both the positive and negative sides. Positive side was tight and I got about 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn out of the negative side. Haven't had a chance to take the bike back out since.

    Anyone else have a similar issue? Anything else I should check?

    Thanks

    Joel


    ***Edit***
    Figured I would update this, in case anyone else has the same issue. Once I snugged down the negative battery cable, the issue has not resurfaced, even when I try and recreate it. Done about another 800 miles and everything is functioning normally.
     
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  2. Sprinter

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    #2 Sprinter, Jan 31, 2021
    Coils when hot?
     
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  3. xorbe

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    #3 xorbe, Jan 31, 2021
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    Yeah I would clean the battery connections and tighten it all back up.

    Edit: missed that it only has 250 miles on it, but I definitely don't trust the shop mechanics ... and those battery lugs seem to work themselves loose far too often. Hopefully it's just that, and not a console failure.
     
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  4. joe mc donald

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    #4 joe mc donald, Jan 31, 2021
    Gitter.
    If i haven't said welcome to the family here it is now. Could be a fluke or drop of water going through the system. I f it does it again get it back to the dealer and tell them to get it sorted. I assume its a new bike.
    Joe.
     
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  5. Gitter

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    #5 Gitter, Jan 31, 2021
    Yup new bike picked it up about a month ago. If it persists I’ll take it in and have it checked. Was just curious if there was anything other than battery lugs that I should be checking. Also how well does the speedy RS adapt to a lithium battery?
     
  6. Abirnie

    Abirnie Well-Known Member

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    #6 Abirnie, Jan 31, 2021
    Check under your seat and make sure your relays/fuses are all seated fully.
     
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  7. Gitter

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    #7 Gitter, Feb 1, 2021
    Will do, will check them later this week.
     
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  8. Abirnie

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    #8 Abirnie, Feb 1, 2021
    The fact that it’s a brand new bike, I’m sure it’s something minor. Hopefully anyways. Getting your negative terminal to tighten up, although a small amount, could have been the problem. Enjoy the new bike and welcome to the forum!!
     
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  9. Alan Gilbert

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    #9 Alan Gilbert, Feb 2, 2021
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  10. Ducatitotriumph

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    #10 Ducatitotriumph, Feb 2, 2021
    Hi there!
    I hear that the lithium battery isn't a big fan of the cold weather so as i'm not sure how cold it gets in Ontario, possibly going to cause a few unwanted starting probs?
     
  11. Alan Gilbert

    Alan Gilbert Senior Member

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    #11 Alan Gilbert, Feb 2, 2021
    I would second that . . . lithium batteries are just hassle as far as I can tell. They don't tolerate battery tenders or possibly need a different type. They are totally crap when allowed to get cold or near freezing and they're ruined if allowed to go flat - stick with tried and trusted OEM Yuasa - more than adequate. (I'm sure others will disagree with me!!)
     
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  12. Bolosun

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    #12 Bolosun, Feb 3, 2021
    My mate has just fitted a lithium battery to his TL and he says that they sometimes need "waking up" if they have not been used awhile or have been left in the cold. He was told that if the bike doesn't start, switch the lights on leave for 30 seconds and then try starting. You may need to do this 2 or 3 times before the bike will turn over normally. Personally I would fit a normal battery.
     
  13. Red Thunder

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    #13 Red Thunder, Feb 3, 2021
    I fit an AGM (Motobatt) battery for the colder months and a lithium battery for summer
    Anything below 5 Celsius and you are going to have problems with lithium ones
    They are brilliant in the summer with the faster crank though - and lighter

    Lithium need a specialist charged that trickles the feed rather than pulses it, plus it must not receive voltage over 15v IIRC as this is an instant killer

    Regarding the hot start issue, I heard this happen due to the starter solenoid having issues on older machines, but never on a new one, I reckon fuse or connection along the line somewhere is loose
     
  14. Gitter

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    #14 Gitter, Feb 3, 2021
    I’ve kept an eye on it since and it hasn’t done it again. Will keep trying to recreate the situation and see what happens.

    as far as the lithium battery goes, I plan on running the stock one for a while. That said, everything else in my garage runs a shorai year round, so charging isn’t an issue.

    was more just curious if anyone had an issue given the fact that the RS seems to be more electronics heavy than other bikes.
     
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