I think that the time has come for me to say cheerio. Sit tight, maybe grab a cuppa, this could be long. I joined the forum a while ago and have enjoyed a good part of the content, but the overall emotions I get from visiting recently are anger and frustration so it’s probably best I melt away like us snowflakes do. Before I go I thought I would try to articulate some of thoughts. I like to think of myself as reasonably intelligent, free thinking & open minded individual. I have never made any bones about my liberal, snowflakey, pinko, loony left leanings, but I would also consider that I listen to differing opinions and get involved in discussions whenever I can. I don’t care who you fuck, what colour you are, what your gender is or who you choose to worship. What I can’t abide is narrow mindedness, bigotry, generalisation or lazy, group mentality. Whatever some may think, I do not accept news/information without a degree of fact check, or at the very least trying to see the bigger picture, or the possible agenda behind things. This has become a place where women/wives are constantly demeaned, sexuality criticised, sweeping race generalisations are made. Now before anybody counters this with the "I've got black mates”, "I knew a gay bloke once” or “there’s gangs of muslim grooming gangs” etc. etc. Maybe just use for a moment & check your facts. These low level, ill informed comments only serve to reinforced stereotypes. Those that know my own personal circumstance will maybe understand why I feel the need to speak out. As a sign off I’ll leave you with this. when I was a young apprentice engineer one day somebody in the workshop was ridiculing a gay man. The welder countered by explaining to the gentleman that the only difference between fucking a man in the ass and fucking a woman in the ass was that you have a closer connection to the man… ...he knows you're making faces behind his back. Thanks for the good stuff, look beyond the headlines & don’t be a dick.
Shame you feel the need to leave, but do what you got to do to feel right with yourself. I for one actively avoid the confrontational threads, life's too short to argue with people I don't know over stuff I have no control over, I have opinions over many things political and social, but in general I choose not to share them on a bike forum, I would rather talk bikes & have a bit of banter.
As a relative newcomer here, can I say that you get all kinds of people on forums. Those who think they know everything and are quick to impress their views on any subject. These who are very knowlegable, those who like to have a laugh etc. etc. I look upon any bike forum as a place where I can gain and exchange info on the bike/s I own first and foremost. I joined this forum (like most I guess) because I'd bought a Triumph motorcycle and wanted to read other fellow owners views on it. There is always an element of having to sort the wheat from the chaff. If the political and social side of any forum offends, then don't use it. What I'm trying to say is use a forum to your advantage, put back in your experiences with bikes which may be of use to others as and when you can, but don't be too offended by anything anyone might say. Its your opinion, your experience so don't be afraid to use it. The more the merrier says I
Not sure that you will see this @jezzasnr if you have indeed left the forum. However, good luck for the future and always remember that we are here if you want to come back.
Sorry that you feel the need to leave the forum @jezzasnr It’s mostly good natured banter in here But if something really boils your piss you can just ignore it
SERIOUS!!! again ...... feck off I say! That's it I am off to the bike racing threads ..... (picture a 6'3, 16 stone man child flouncing off into the sunset!)
Cheerio. Funny, I don't, personally, recognise your characterisation of what "this place" has become, but I'd accept that might well say more about me than it does about either you or "this place". Maybe we'll meet up at sometime in the future - perhaps somewhere near the Devon and Cornwall border - enjoy a drink in the West Country sunshine (it's SO much better than elsewhere!) chat about Triumphs and, perhaps, lesser bikes ( ) and, I hope, not get too bound up in each other's personal opinion/s of anything that we can't maintain a sensible relationship. Maybe. Best of luck with everything and anything you do. Regards, Adie
All the very best and take care, I can't agree with you completely but then I myself am a Marmite person you either like or detest, you are not alone in having had problems and issues in life I have had more than my fair share as have a good many others, but I find this place easy going and a dam good laugh and that is the best medicine for me, I like the comradery amongst the folk here in general much to what I was used to in my work life, lives to short not to laugh and have fun. Take care @jezzasnr
This is a motorcycle forum, a forum for triumph motorcycle enthusiasts. I for one don't or try not to read anything not about the above. Take care mate and all the best.
Yep, it's "a motorcycle forum, a forum for triumph motorcycle enthusiasts" but - and it's a pretty big 'but' - it's not and never was a forum simply ABOUT "motorcycles" or "motorcycle enthusiasts". Your advice is fine if one only wants to read about motorcycles or motor cycle enthusiasts but that reminds me of the immortal words of perhaps the greatest modern day philosopher :- "Don't think. It's like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory!" One quick look at the 'LOUNGE' header page will tell you SO much about the spectrum of subjects that can be covered at any one time. In the modern age it seems that we have far more freedom of expression than ever before and so, inevitably, that freedom is going to impinge on the sensitivity of some people. The only valid way of dealing with that - psychologically and physically - is to cease reading ANYTHING that becomes counter to your own views and opinions. Assuming that you've got to a point where you realise that a topic/subject/thread or individual posting isn't going in quite the direction you would expect or prefer it to go - MOVE ON! Do not collect £200 and do not pass GO! Shut up, move on and get involved/excited/interested/educated/annoyed/frustrated/moved in some other topic ......... but not the Brexit thread! By the way, the use of the word "you" in the above text is not meant to personalise the point of the posting, it's meant to indicate the wider application of the principle to anyone reading the posting. My two penn'orth.
Its a forum....nobody or very few are going to hold the same opinions and variety is yada yada so making the effort to get along despite differing opinions is what its all about personally i have not noticed any overall bigoted opinions or at least people making a big fuss about voicing them but then again i dont go looking for those kind of threads as said reading is not mandatory so on the whole i think this is a truly great forum and i have been on a few, There are few that have the group caring mentality that i for one have encountered here and the general comradery is also very apparent. I suspect that because many of us are of a certain age the general attitude is a little more hard nosed than current snowflaky lets have a moan about everything and do virtually nothing other than put other peoples lives at risk by ignoring social distancing and chucking ancient statues in the drink. The other great thing about this forum which is probably another reason for our friends leaving is that the moderation is not OTT threads are not often removed or closed and seldom get totally out of hand unlike a lot of other forums.
If people want to leave for whatever reason why make fuss or a thread about it, just leave or don’t look at the forum. Then you don’t embarrass yourself and are able to come back when you realize that most people on here are lovely and you miss us. Anyway I’m going to derail this thread. Here’s Stan looking very disinterested in people having hissy fits.
After being on here for years, almost daily, and sometimes, many times a day, and making friends, meeting,riding, holidaying, being helped, laughing, sharing, helping, eating, drinking, sleeping, with many good people on this forum, saying good bye is good manners.