"heritage" Round Headlight Conversion --> 2011+ Speed Triple Retrofit

Hiyo, Speedie riders.

Have any of you done a "heritage" swap of your 2011+ foxeye headlights for round headlamps?

I am looking to try this on my 2013 Speed Triple R.

I am seeking advice on avoiding pitfalls with the mounting and wiring of this conversion


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I found three examples of this on the web:



Triumphrat forum user moth11 did a "heritage conversion" on his 2012:


Facebook user Minh R. did his 2011:


Facebook user Andy M did his 201X Speedie:

 

make that four examples.

Facebook user Simon R did heritage round lights on his Speedie, too:

 

p.s. I asked the local Triumph dealer how much for a pair of the lovely new Rocket 3 headlights.



I wept when she sent me the Triumph price quote (in $CAD)

 

@Col_C : thank you for chiming in, and yes, your experience is exactly what I am seeking!

In the image below circled with blue "A" is this part:

T2700569 Headlight Center Pivot, 2010 Speed Triple OEM Headlight
($51.34 USD)



This is the part I was hoping to achieve by repurposing my 2013's existing center pivot.

Are the dimensions of your stock pivot and the T2700569 pivot really different?

 

And the foxeye brackets sit ABOVE the stock center pivot instead of wrapping around it.

Hmmm...

If I could live with the wider positioning, could I shim and grommet the incoming brackets to fit the stock center pivot?

 

OK, good news and bad news.

I just did some prelim test-fitting of these aftermarket 5.75" buckets I acquired.

Good News:

-I can easily overcome this delta of (21-14) mm. I can just use shim washers and grommets to bridge the gap between the stock 2013 center pivot 14mm and these 21 mm bucket brackets:

 

BAD NEWS:

The stock centre pivot positions the round headlamps at least 1.5" too far rearward

These pictures may not convey the appearance fully; the rear of the housing buckets are nearly touching my Swedish forks

 

I see three options:

1 ) live with the round lights pushed too far rearwards. (no)

2 ) buy the complete subframe assembly from an appropriate older Speedie/Streetie so that it has the mounting dimensions of classic triples.

3 ) fabricate two 1.5" cantilevers that will mount onto the stock center pivots at 14.5mm height, and connect to the buckets that are 21 mm bracket height.

Hmmm...

 

Here is part of the reason for the undesirable rearward offset:

• The Triumph OEM heritage buckets have their brackets at position "A".
  
  
• My aftermarket buckets have their brackets at position "B".

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I could fork up the coin to buy the whole Triumph OEM subframe assy with center pivot and buckets. But I'm hardheaded and want to build cantilevers now, LOLOL

 

Thanks for this, @Col_C.

Yes, the subframe swap possibility is a favorite for some Speedie riders looking to lower their headlights and dashboard. I personally like the existing dashboard height.

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Thank you for the photos. Your bikes are lovely and look to be well cared for!

This 'x' distance below is what I hope to achieve with my setup:





I'm going to speak with my welding friends for ideas how to create two cantilever pieces like this. Maybe I'll modify some aluminum camera mounts...

 

@Col_C :

Tangent question: are you pleased with your Healtech gear indicator? ("A")

And what are these coloured lights on your dash? ("B" and "C")

 

You are an engineering scholar and true Speedie fan!

Where do I go to buy such lovely switches? And how much will my wiring harness grow if I add such DRL and hazard buttons?

 

I'm really interested in following this up. My next four weeks is going to weird. We Canadians will have to cram a lot of riding in when the weather clears. I'll binge the kilometers while I can. But when the sky starts pouring again, I'll tinker in the garage.

Electrical scares me, though. I don't understand it enough.