First Ride. Choke Question

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  1. Blayr Carver

    Blayr Carver Member

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    Hey all.

    Not sure if in the right section but first post. I have had the Triumph America 2011 for a week. I went out for a 42 mile ride. And to be honest I sat at 60 to 70 mph the whole time. And it was brilliant. loved it.

    But the choke was out at one the whole time. It would run ok when pushed in but when i stopped it would cut out. Now it was cold yesterday and the book says under 25°c the choke will need to be out by one till warmed up. But after 20 miles should it not be warmed up??

    Once again sorry if in wrong area but wanted everones opinion
     
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  2. Callumity

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    A 2011 America is fuel injected so has no choke......

    What are you referring to?
     
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  3. Callumity

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    #3 Callumity, Nov 28, 2018
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    Being unfair perhaps! The Efi Bonnies "choke" is really a manual Idle air control valve. Pretty unsophisticated but cheap! More expensive EFI are motorised ( a stepper) and controlled by the ECU to provide a steady idle.

    its main purpose on the Bonnie is to provide an accurate amount of initial air for starting and a fast warm up idle.

    All of which tells me your idle is set too low......too low to maintain tickover after 20 mins when it should be warm irrespective of the ambient temperature. It’s the knurled knob underside the LH throttle body.
     
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  4. MrOrange

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    Agree, the fast idle is there to increase tickover till warm. These bikes like to stall, or not pick up from low rev's. The speedmaster and America both seem to be set too low, bonnie's don't seem as bad.

    Just turn the black knurled knob near the throttle bodies until it runs ok. If it starts to race when warm, just turn back. Happy medium is easy enough to find.

    I had mine set quite fast for tickover, as I hated it trying to stall as you pulled away, even when warm.
     
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  5. Callumity

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    Maybe a quirk of the 270 degree motor? My T100 likes idle at about 1050-1100 which is slightly above the handbook recommendation.
     
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  6. steve lovatt

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    Adjust your idle speed when engine is warm via the knurled knob as said above - see pic.
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    Once you have it set up correctly - about 1050 to 1100 rpm is best, then for future starting, pull the "choke" knob out fully and start the bike. Give it a few seconds to settle down and then push it in to the second stop. Assuming you are kitted up apart from your gloves, leave it out until you have your gloves on then push in and off you go. You can start the bike then without it but don't touch the throttle or it will stall. :cool:
     
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  7. Blayr Carver

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    Thanks very much for the pic. Really helps
     
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  8. Blayr Carver

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    Thanks everyone
     
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  9. Callumity

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    You are welcome. We are only here to rip the p***. It makes us inadequates feel better about ourselves........
     
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  10. Callumity

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    The assumption is confounded by poor starting which re-oils everything before fuel ignition occurs!
     
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  11. steve lovatt

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    Mine won't start from cold without the choke thingy! :cool:
     
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  12. MrOrange

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    My America wouldn't start after you had left it sat outside the cafe !!! Was a feckin twat for doing that. Having to pull out the fake chke to get it started again sometimes, was like starting an old 50/60's car, needing the bloody choke all the time.

    But, it was the only downside to the bike, loved my America, would even consider another.


    FFS, you boys are slipping. Post #14 and we're still on topic and not ripped the piss yet ??? WTF is going on:eek:
     
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  13. steve lovatt

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    We've mentioned "knobs" a few times though! :cool:
     
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  14. Bad Billy

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    Just didn't want to scare all the new members off again!
     
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  15. MrOrange

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    Think of it as a filter, we can weed the normal one's out before they get in too deep. :D
     
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  16. Bad Billy

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    OK, I'll see if @Ron Ashurst, @joe mc donald fancy chipping in on this one them MrO!
     
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  17. Callumity

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    Truthfully? Talking about choking anything with DD on the loose invites a decline in polite social intercourse.......
     
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  18. Callumity

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    I told you all!
     
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  20. Rich Bryce

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    On start up pull it out to first click in warm weather and fully out in cold, then start up. Push it back in once the engine runs too fast, then ride off.
     
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