Clutch Disc Replacement 2005 Thruxton

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  1. sikatri

    sikatri Member

    May 23, 2019
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    I’m going to do an idler boss reinforcement on a 2005 Thruxton. Since I’ll have the clutch cover off I’m going to check the clutch and most likely replace the discs. I have the clutch restraint tool for disassembly and assembly. I’ve understood the job can be done without the clutch alignment tool. Any thoughts and recommendations appreciated. 0578CD5C-E36E-4F8D-8907-49596E64B421.jpeg E98F057C-153B-458E-9F31-0ABFFCF6ED36.jpeg AA387628-DFFD-4665-9A6D-F2126A42F9E3.jpeg
     
  2. sikatri

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    I’m learning toward not buying the alignment tool. One of my shop manuals indicates it can be done without, so without I’ll go.
     
  3. sikatri

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    CBB859CB-9FFE-4473-A175-110B7DFB8216.jpeg B053BD97-DBE9-483A-829A-75C1D7678DDD.jpeg The parts came in a bit back, but had other jobs to do. Going to start this this weekend.
    I’ll also be doing the idler boss reinforcement first.
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  4. sikatri

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    Started disassembly. Removed shift linkage, clutch cable, and bolts. Disconnected breather hose tube and clamp. Tapped the cover with a rubber mallet and used a handy piece of wood to break the seal on the cover. Pushed the breather tube connector and wiggled the loose cover off.
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    Nothing too unusual, some crud oil. Good chance to clean it a bit.
     
  5. sikatri

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    Since I’m doing an idler boss reinforcement, removed the wavy washer, the idler shaft and the idler gear. Note the last picture, the boss walls are not even, weakest on the right side. The shaft hole is a bit offset. Reinforcement is probably not a bad idea.
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  6. sikatri

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    I’ll do some cleanup before starting any install or removing the clutch discs.
     
  7. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Was your clutch slipping ? My America has 133,000 km , I put heavier weight Springs in at 90,000 km as I did an engine Up grade to 905cc and retuned on dyno.
    Clutch plates were fine. No slipping before or since. Resetting the four Bolt's in clutch hub is fiddly , I found mine was out a bit from the factory , much smoother after new Springs and adjusted properly.
    Take plenty of time and carefully adjust and tighten equally on each bolt....
     
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  8. sikatri

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    I’ve done adjustment to it recently. I’ve had some minor issues going into gear, before the adjustment. I’ve had the motorcycle for two years, but I don’t know the last time it had a clutch job or not. Since I was going to reinforce the idler boss it just seemed like a good idea to do both jobs. The clutch plates probably had some life left. I’ll take them out and measure. See what I can learn at the same time.
     
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  9. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Bought my America new in 2008 , been towing trailers since 2009 .
    Hence engine and clutch Work ''!''
     
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  10. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Had my America from new 2008.
    Been towing trailer since 2009.


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  11. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Hence clutch spring upgrade , because I bored the motor out to 905 cc and retuned on dyno , power went from 51 HP at rear wheel to 75/80 hp. As first 51 HP was done on different dynamometer in a different shop on a different day , can't really compare ! Didn't do a before on the day it was tuned ! But tuner recons we gained 15+ HP on the day... At least.
    The photo is recent February or so , the trailer weighs 45kg empty. Loaded not been over 110kg? I have a camper 119kg empty , been on 7week tour to Darwin NT two years ago, trailer topped 230kg loaded. Bike,clutch etc handling it fine.
     
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  12. sikatri

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    A better performance clutch is never a bad idea.
     
  13. sikatri

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    Interesting problem. The Barnett High Performance Clutch kit has seven friction discs and seven steel discs. It should have had only six. Two of the seven steel plates are thicker and then there are five thinner discs. Question is which six do I use? 709B10D9-21DE-4BF1-A245-35D1E60E84A0.jpeg 497982C9-05D4-4A63-9AA9-FE6F484D0E8D.jpeg 1F5338D7-7A2A-4C8B-8F25-6DC4A6F0D528.jpeg
     
  14. sikatri

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    I removed the old clutch discs Friday. I have some partial answers to my questions. I’m still curious what is listed in the part list and contacted the manufacturer. If the set is only meant to have one thicker disc or two. If with only one then is it wrong to use both thicker plates. I suspect I could use both the thicker ones and four of the thinner plates. The vendor mentioned something about being able to fine tune with a thicker disc. Sounds good. It would increase the stack height slightly.
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    The steel plates on the original have shiny patches, but the old stack is slightly thicker than my new Barnett. Go figure.
     
  15. sikatri

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    Finally had time to work on the Thruxton again. Cleaned up the idler boss. Put the white dot on. Mixed some JB Weld and stuck the reinforcement in place. Cleaned up the edges. Now waiting 24 hours before putting the shaft and idler gear back in place.
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    Now, to start cleaning off gaskets and miscellaneous items. Waiting on a response from the clutch disc manufacturer. If I don’t get a response, I’ll install the two thicker steel plates on both outsides and four of the thinner in between. Soaking discs now. I’ve read people have different time recommendations, not sure if more is bad or less good.
     
  16. sikatri

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    The clutch disc replacement was a fairly straight forward job. The biggest job was removing gaskets and miscellaneous clean up I decided to do. Center bolt 105Nm. The bearing assembly torqued to 9Nm. It indeed was a very fiddly job. Took me hours to do. Had to stop and walk away two to three times. Done in an afternoon though. Then complete the clean up and remember to install the wavy washer on the idler boss gear shaft and install cover. Cover bolts at 9Nm as well and the gear selector screw 9Nm. Fill with oil and done.

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  17. sikatri

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    The final steps, cover and adjustments. Time to ride!

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