Cbr600f3 Vs Sprint St

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  1. natnif

    natnif Member

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    Hi,

    I sold my cbr earlier today. I'm wondering if anyone could tell me how the sprint st riding position compares to it? I'm considering buying a sprint in England and having it shipped over to Ireland meaning I won't get to try before I buy. There are no sprints for sale anywhere near me so I have no way to get a feel for the bike and I'm not in a position timewise to take a day or two off to fly over and try out some bikes.

    So! I'm wondering how they compare. Although the cbr was good fun, I found anything over an hour to be a bit wearing and 2 hours in the saddle was about my limit. I'm looking at buying something that can carry 2 up for several hours at a time in reasonable comfort.

    I am also looking at a tiger (there is one for sale near me so I'll be testing that at the weekend all going well) but I can get a sprint a bit cheaper.

    Any advice for me?
     
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  2. English Bowman

    English Bowman Well-Known Member

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    I've owned both, but had a TT600 between the two. The TT had lower bars (slightly) and higher pegs (a lot) than the CBR. The ST1050 has higher bars and lower pegs than the CBR. I did a journey from Portsmouth to Land's End on the CBR solo, and one from Portsmouth to Cadwell Park on the ST, and the ST1050 is definitely more comfortable for the rider and my pillion had no complaints on the comfort of the ST, although it is a little higher and more in the wind than the CBR.
     
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  3. trudd

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    Have a go with this: http://cycle-ergo.com/

    Don't forget that the 1050 has 2 sets of bars available. The original 2005 had lower bars and that seems to make a difference to some but it's not too difficult to swap between them.
     
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  4. natnif

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    That site is brilliant, thanks!

    The differences between them aren't massive...then again a few degrees here and there could make all the difference. I didn't realise there was a 2nd set of bars available, I'll have to do a bit more reading and see what the best plan is.
     
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  5. Sprinter

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    Hi.
    I had a GT, and you can spend days in the saddle ,very comfortable, you need to stretch every couple of hours, and at the end of the day no aches or pains ,A+
    The ST is a good middle ground shorter wheel base and quicker gears, than the GT.
    People buy risers for these bikes, I found if you adjust your position from time to time you dont need them either.
    Good luck.
     
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  6. joe mc donald

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    My two pence worth the two bike are chalk and cheese. The sprint is a tourer and boy it does everything it says on the tin. You can raise lower the bars as you wish. Its there all the time you just squeeze that throttle and away it goes again. And its comfortable. The cbr is a school boy racer all there full on but soon finds it limit and seems to be revving rather than racing. Now its only my opinion so don't pay any attention to what I say. Plenty of reviews about do some home work on the bikes.
    Ride Safe
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  7. natnif

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    Thanks folks, some really good info there. I have booked a test ride on the Tiger for tomorrow so I'll see how that goes. It will at least give me a sense of the engine, but if it checks out I may well opt for the tiger.
     
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  8. Sprinter

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    Which Tiger, you hear nothing but good things about the 800 and the new 1200.
    Triumph dealer told me most in his workplace would take the 800, first.
     
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  10. Johnjo

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    Enjoy your test ride on the Tiger.

    Pretty much the same engine as the st. The st is a bit quicker due to better aerodynamics and gearing. Carries it's weight a bit lower too. But I found the st uncomfortable after a couple of hours in the saddle.

    The tiger has all day comfort but you need to be fairly tall when it comes to putting your feet down. Can be lowered with shorter dog bones fitted. With a little engine work and a decent exhaust the Tiger can be given speed triple type acceleration. It only loses out to the speedy due to gearing.

    That looks a nice example you've lined up for a demo. I think that's a Palmer product screen fitted to it. It's multi adjustable and far superior to triumphs oe tall screen,

    If you want any further tiger info just holler.
     
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  11. Johnjo

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    Enjoy your test ride on the Tiger.

    Pretty much the same engine as the st. The st is a bit quicker due to better aerodynamics and gearing. Carries it's weight a bit lower too. But I found the st uncomfortable after a couple of hours in the saddle.

    The tiger has all day comfort but you need to be fairly tall when it comes to putting your feet down. Can be lowered with shorter dog bones fitted. With a little engine work and a decent exhaust the Tiger can be given speed triple type acceleration. It only loses out to the speedy due to gearing.

    That looks a nice example you've lined up for a demo. I think that's a Palmer product screen fitted to it. It's multi adjustable and far superior to triumphs oe tall screen,

    If you want any further tiger info just holler.
     
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  12. natnif

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    Thanks for that. Good to know about the screen as well, that's one of the things I've heard can let it down.I'm 6 foot so should be reasonably ok with the taller bike...I hope!
    I've read as many reviews as I could find, but if you have any buyers tips/ common problems to look out for that would be great!
     
  13. Johnjo

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    One of the bikes weak areas was the rear shock. Bigger boys, shall we say, had to upgrade it quite quickly. I was about 11 stone when I had my Tiger and the shock was fine for me. Just check it's not pogoing around underneath you. Good bargaining point as it's probably due replacing at that mileage anyway. Reckon on about £400 negotiating for a quality replacement.

    The engines pretty bullet proof if it's been serviced on schedule. Gear boxes don't like old oil with gear changes suffering. Work the box hard through the gears make sure all's well.

    A lot of bikes had trouble with warped front discs too. Check for any pulsing at the lever when braking hard.

    All said and done it's a cracking bike. Not trying to put you off rereading above. But I think those were the main topics that used to come up on the Tiger forum. Tiger1050.com.

    Oh, just remembered. Batteries have to be 100 % on them or starting problems are pretty much guaranteed.

    Please let us know how the test ride goes. :)
     
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  14. natnif

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    Well I rode the tiger and loved it. In fact I loved it so much, I bought it. Pics to follow!
     
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    Everyone I know that’s sold a CBR600F has regretted it. Sold my F3 two years as I wasn’t really using it, now wish I’d have kept it as it didn’t fetch a lot, they’re a really brilliant bike.

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  19. natnif

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    They are a great bike. I bought mine as a way to get me back onto bikes after a 9 year break. It was perfect for that. Plenty of fun, predictable enough to not bite you too hard and they look pretty good too. I don't think I'll regret selling though. Ok, the tiger cost me quite a bit more money, but the difference between them is massive, the developments made over the 10 (ish) years between the F3 and the launch of the tiger are huge....so much so that I don't think it's fair to compare them side by side, they are from different eras.
    Natnif from 10 years ago would probably have stuck with the cbr for another while, but the truth of it is it never suited me and I was never comfortable on it. I always felt I was fighting the bike rather than working with it and that's never a good sign. Don't get me wrong, I was sad to see it go as it was a decent machine, but I don't think I'll look back on it as the one that got away.
     
  20. Hamburg

    Hamburg Senior Member

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    They’re a great second bike, shame is, that that was all mine ever was, bought it locally as a non-runner for £500, rebuilt it, but never really used it.
     
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