Battery jump starter - any tips?

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  1. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Hey guys

    Had a bit of a struggle getting the Bonneville going this morning, gave it a few too many tries to get the engine going whilst it was very cold and the battery gave up. Long story short a passer by pushed me down the road and I was able to bump start it and be on my way.

    Now the bike had only been sitting since yesterday evening but it was particularly cold in Glasgow last night (-3 or -4 I think, bike was actually icy) so I was definitely giving it a bit of a challenge to get going. Previous owner recently fitted a battery (I think, will need to double check the date for that) so I think it was more the cold than the batteries age.

    What I was wondering is if anyone has tips or suggestions for one of the small jump starter battery packs I could buy to give the battery a little assistance if I end up in a similar situation again? Pushing the bike on cobbles is a pain in the arse particularly with my racing snake physique. Don't want to spend a fortune but don't want to buy cheap crap either. Like the idea of a smallish pack I can also carry to charge my phone in case I need it for gps on trips. Something like the link below is what I am looking for but that one has one or two reviews saying it caught fire which obviously makes me wary.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/DBPOWER-18...b-bd11-4e9e-8c26-9ca0139074ee&pf_rd_i=desktop
     
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  2. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Trickle is difficult because the bike is three floors down and across the street. Would have to bring the battery in or have a spare which is obviously an option but if this is only going to be a problem the odd time then a jump starter would be less hassle. I would probably get use of it as a phone charger too so long as it wasn't huge so it would be less occasional use than just jump starting the bike.
     
  3. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Yeah, kinda my thoughts, though they say it'll jump stary from about 25% battery so worst case could plug it in somewhere and have a coffee while I wait for enough charge to kick the bike into life
     
  4. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    Not being funny, but would it be possible to put a blanket over where the battery is (over the seat or tank) and then put a cover over the bike. This may well stop more cold than you think getting to the battery.
    So long as you have somewhere to store the cover and blanket while you are out on the bike.

    Other than that, a spare battery, or take the oneyou have inside and charge it up over night.
    Sometime just taking the battery in at the weekend and giving it a full charge can keep it a lot more heathier for the week then you would think.

    Other than that the booster you linked to seems the way to go, but as DD says, chose one you can keep constantly charged and wont blow up:eek:
     
  5. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Thanks for the tips, think I'll look into a second battery and charger in the long run and pick up a jump starter as an emergency fix. Still tempted by the one I linked as it is the most popular on amazon but only two caught fire, could have been bad luck or improper use.
     
  6. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    The fact it's got a compass has sold me on the idea!! Help me find where I last left my keys... always to the north!
     
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  7. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Compass is a bit of a piss take, does make me think a little less of the product to be honest. Still trying to shop around for one that is likely to be reliable and unlikely to be flammable
     
  8. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Going to double check what is in the bike and how new it is before I make that call. New battery might be the answer but since I am probably about 30kg lighter than the average biker doubt the weight saving is that noticeable ;)
     
  9. sprintdave

    sprintdave Nurse,he's out of bed again

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    Check out the cranking power of the battery there are higher power ones available for most fittings, and they are usually the same size as originals or even sometimes smaller.The previous owner may have just put a cheap battery on , that is of course if he changed it. Dont know how long you have had the bike but has it been serviced etc, sometimes all it needs is new plugs. The blanket over the seat under the outer cover is a very good idea too from Red.
    I just looked at the charger you were on about,ok it is much smaller than the car type one i have in the boot of my car but I wouldnt want to be lumping it round everywhere I went.
     
  10. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Will check out the details on the current battery and double check when it was last serviced, I have only had it a few months but it was pretty well looked after before I got my hands on it (I think). In terms of carting the jump starter around, think it would live at home incase I needed to give it a boost in the mornings after a cold night and only really be carted with me if I was doing longer trips away somewhere when phone charging and planning for potential bike issues becomes more pertinent.
     
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  11. Sprinter

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    If you are going to have to take off the seat to connect jump pack then you are half-way to removing the battery and taking into the house, trickle charger or not.
    Leaving the battery in on cold nights will not be good for it, regardless of you getting bike started with pack.
    I remove mine and keep it in the house on cold weather it takes two minutes in and out. good extra security also, I dont use it daily though.
    I dont necessarily put the battery on trickle when I remove it. It just likes to be in the warm.
     
  12. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    I'll take it in tonight, need to get replacement seat bolts from motone or similar because needing an allen key to remove the seat is a ball ache
     
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  13. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Well, possible reason for my struggle this morning. Checking the battery fitted and it is a Varta which apparently has a CCA 90A which seems awfully low compared with alternatives. Guessing if I put in something like a Motobatt with a CCA 200 it'll have a fair bit more kick on a cold morning
     
  14. Red Thunder

    Red Thunder Crème de la Crème

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    I have a Motobatt, lovely bit of kit and so much more 'stronger' when starting.
    For a while (not sure how long) the rectifier had gone on my bike and was putting 19v though the battery - pretty much cooking it.
    I sorted the rectifier and the Motobatt carried on without a blink....other lesser batteries may well have exploded and spilttheir innards

    I also just fittted a voltmeter so I can monitor the battery when I turn the ignition on.
    Another thing I would be doing this weekend is putting an inline switch to the headlights so I can turn them off before starting the bike, just a contingency should the cold have affected the battery.
     
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  15. sprintdave

    sprintdave Nurse,he's out of bed again

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    Mmmmm are your lights always on then?? I never knew that.
    Summat to be said for older bikes then with a light switch. lol

    Motobatt on my bike too, so much better starts .
     
  16. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Think I'll pick up a Motobatt and one of their wee cheapy chargers then. Current battery is in the flat keeping warm and the bike isn't getting used today since it was -4 degrees this morning and freezing fog.
     
  17. Sprinter

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    watch out for chargers too mate. To much ampage feeding in will fry your battery. thats why optimate is so good it has a realy low feed rate
     
  18. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    I assume the motobatt charger is ok for motobatt batteries
     
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  19. MickEng

    MickEng Noble Member

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    I am having exactly the same issue with my Bonnie.
    New battery fitted 12 mths ago and I use the bike almost daily, ~ 40 miles per day
    Had to bumpstart last week after being stood for two days which pissed me off.
    Loads of good advice on the forum for this issue but I think ultimately if all the electrics check out okay, regular trickle charging is the answer.
    Red Thunders idea of switching the lights off will help, I must admit when the battery is struggling to turn the engine and the headlamp and tail lamp are on it does piss you off.
    Just recently returning to biking I was used to having kick starts on my bikes, no problem with starting then!
    Do you have an alarm fitted, because that drains a bit of juice as well ?
     
  20. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Hi d-basser, if it really was only the cold-4°c. Try boiling the Kettle putt some rag around the battery. Pour hot water on. Give it a few minutes then try starting ?.. Or get the jump starter pack with lithium battery. my boss has one he jump started his bus with it (24v but hooked up to weakest battery) it worked fine and you can charge them off 240/12/USB voltages.
     
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