Accident, repair and insurance, quick advice needed

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  1. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Hi guys

    Thursday I became one of those daft newbies that crashes their new bike. Classic slippy conditions of heavy rain after days of dry weather combined with diesel on the road. Turned off a roundabout onto motorway slip road and had to slow for traffic suddenly backing up ahead, over compensated for the bike slipping on the surface and down I went. Thankfully not going fast and had left room between me and the car in front so didn't hit anyone, I came out ok with aches and bruises but my lovely Bonneville is a little worse for wear.

    Crash has smashed my headlight and indicator, bent the headlight bracket, bent the cluster bracket and broken the tach, sheared the right rider footpeg, broken the front mudguard and skewed the forks. So lots of damage but nothing big and expensive as far I'm aware.

    Here's where I need advice, being new to bikes, driving, insurance etc. I have contacted my insurer and their approved garage is collecting Monday. I am now second guessing that choice, my premiums are already high so this could make them crazy. Looking at what's obviously broken I could source parts online and fix it myself then get it checked at a garage locally. I am not a mechanic but I am an engineer with common sense. Would this be a stupid idea? Also since I have already contacted my insurer is it too late? They know it has been damaged so I am assuming it isn't as simple as phoning them back and saying 'forget it'.

    Advice would be much appreciated, particularly since I'll have to phone pretty soon to cancel collection on Monday.

    Thanks
     
  2. stew?

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    Once you have told them about a accident it goes straight on there system so even if you phone them back and not claim it still goes down that you've had a accident. so premium will go up I'm afraid.
    My wife works for insurance but she's at work till 5. When she gets in I will ask her the crack.
     
  3. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    I thought that was probably the case, was in too much of a fluster about reporting it soon enough to properly think about whether I should report it at all.
     
  4. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi DB, even though it doesn't sound like much damage, don't be too surprise if it gets written-off. This is in part because it's a brand new bike and in part because the insurer wants to avoid ANY possible liability claim, post repair.
     
  5. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Thanks for the advice guys
     
  6. GaryM

    GaryM It's him, you know who. Him from you know ....

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    As the others are saying you've reported it now , so no matter what they will hike your premium regardless.
    Might as well get your money's worth one :)
     
  7. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Aye, might as well get my money's worth. Should have posted the question Thursday night before phoning my insurer Friday, could have posted during the time I was twiddling my thumbs in A&E (metaphorically, my left thumb is currently big and purple). This is looking like a valuable but costly lesson.
     
  8. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    What's the outcome out of interest? Although I know it's not my question but very interested to hear what your wife said.
     
  9. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I'm not sure that you'll get a hike in premiums, if you decide to repair yourself and the ins. coy. doesn't have to pay out. After all, when you insure with a different company they will ask 'how many claims have you had' not how many accidents have you had - just my thoughts, might be bollox?
     
  10. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    That was my initial thinking, if that's the case (doesn't seem like it) I would be inclined to cancel the claim and collection and fix it myself.
     
  11. stew?

    stew? Member

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    Ok wife says as you have told them you've had a accident (even if you claim or not) it goes on the cue system which is linked to every insurance company, so if you move company when your policy is up you will have to tell them. If you don't they will void your policy. Then you will struggle to get insurance.
    As for claiming as I said before your premium will go up because you've had a accident so deemed a risk. So you have to weigh up what your axcess is compared to the parts ect if you do it yourself. Hope that helps.
     
  12. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Righto, that's what I needed to know. Thanks for checking.
     
  13. stew?

    stew? Member

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    Personally if your excess is say £500 and you can get the parts and do it yourself for the same or a shade higher I would be tempted to do it yourself.
    Yes your premium will go up because your deemed a risk but you wouldn't have made a claim.
     
  14. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Bad luck mate - came off my Bonnie last year and that was a complete right off - I was doing about 75 mph though (instinctively over-braked when some clown pulled out into my lane and down it went).
    I was very lucky, but know all about purple "sausage" fingers!
     
  15. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Would my premiums go up less for just an accident than for an accident and a claim?
     
  16. stew?

    stew? Member

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    Wife's at work again but personally I would say yes
     
  17. d-basser

    d-basser Active Member

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    Might have to phone insurer and ask, thanks
     
  18. stew?

    stew? Member

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    Can't do any harm in asking them. Good luck
     
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  19. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    I think insurers ask if you have had any accidents, wether you were to blame or not, in the last ..... As well as have you made any claims. So unfortunately I think you will have to declare it, so as you've notified them I think that will be a box you'll have to tick
     
  20. DaveTheSuperVillain

    DaveTheSuperVillain Active Member

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    It would have to be declared to any future insurers whether you claim or not, however there is a fairly big difference between a Fault Claim (if you do go through the insurance) and an Info only accident (which is how it would be recorded if you don't).

    Whether to claim or not ultimately depends on the cost of parts and time to fix vs. the XS on your policy and any possible premium increase etc for the claim. Also remember, if this is your first insurance; if you do not claim and fix it yourself, you would still be entitled to a No Claims Bonus at the end of the year (provided you don't make any other claims).....that in itself could be worth 30-35% discount on next years premium........another potential cost/saving to bear in mind when you decide how to go ahead.

    Worst case, you could always make the claim and then if the repair cost etc isn't too high, you would have the option to repay the insurer for the claim, which again would turn it back to an Info only accident rather than a Fault Claim.
     
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