2013 Triumph Explorer Dipped Lights Broken

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Bobby2023, Feb 26, 2023.

  1. Bobby2023

    Bobby2023 New Member

    Feb 26, 2023
    3
    3
    Lancashire
    Hi as the title says my dipped beam headlights stopped working.
    I've checked all the fuses and relay boxes, and bulbs (all been replaced with new) and there all ok.
    I have my park light and high beam just no normal dipped lights. I can't ride around at night on high beam as I'll blind everybody and the small park lights not enough, also I'll need the headlight on for the MOT.
    I've opened up the left hand switch gear and it all looks fine so I drowned it in electrical contact cleaner, everything on that switch gear works perfectly.
    I'm aware a few others have had this issue and wondered if anyone had found the fix/cause, loom or switch gear. Or if it's the connectors where the switch gear connects to the loom join...have melted.
    All help Great appreciated
     
  2. Bobby2023

    Bobby2023 New Member

    Feb 26, 2023
    3
    3
    Lancashire
    Just to add when I said the switch gear all works fine, I meant all the functions except the rocker switch for high/low beam. It operates high beam fine but I don't know how I'd test it? . The dipped headlights come on usually once the engine starts well untill now they did lol.
     
  3. Helmut Visor

    Helmut Visor Only dead fish go with the flow
    Subscriber

    Oct 3, 2018
    6,203
    800
    Three Counties
    Hi Bobby :cool: I'm afraid I'm no electrical help at all but it may help those who are if you add which bike this is on ;)
     
  4. Damien

    Damien Recovering sportsbike addict
    Subscriber

    Oct 2, 2020
    43
    18
    Carlow, Ireland
    First thing to check is whether the power is getting to the headlight connector using a multi-meter, or if you don't have one then a simple bulb test. Locate the connector block where your headlight connects into the loom and disconnect it.

    When you turn on the ignition one terminal on the loom side should have power straight away and when you flip the switch to high beam a second one will receive power. If none of the terminals on the loom side of the connector show power initially then you probably have a broken or burnt out wire in the loom between the switch and the connector. Unfortunately it is not uncommon on bikes with always on dip lights as the wire gets too hot and is often routed in a way that bends it back and forth while driving.

    If on the other hand you have power at both terminals then the problem is somewhere between the headlight side of the connector and the bulb holder. As well as the model of bike please tell us if the headlights are standard or after market "upgrades".

    I had to rewire a mate's bike as he replaced his bike's single headlight with an aftermarket twin light set-up and it burnt out the front loom twice. If changing from a single to a twin headlight you should rewire from the switch to headlight connector with a heavier grade of wire as the original would have been selected to only be heavy enough to carry the current drawn by a single headlight. 2 headlights means same voltage but double the current drawn, which over heats the wire as it wasn't made to take that load.

    If you want to fix electrical problems yourself then invest in a decent multi-meter. You can get one on Amazon for a little as 20 quid.
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  5. Bobby2023

    Bobby2023 New Member

    Feb 26, 2023
    3
    3
    Lancashire
    Hi sorry I've now edited the title, the issue is on my 2013 Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200cc
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Bobby2023

    Bobby2023 New Member

    Feb 26, 2023
    3
    3
    Lancashire
    Thanks for the replies, the headlights are both H4's the park lights a small capless 501.
    The park light and my rear light come on with the ignition, only once the engines started do the dipped beam come on automatically. Only now there not doing that
    Everything else is fine, hi beam and flash work perfectly, indicators and horn and my info button and up/down button all work fine. Just when I press the rocker switch back to dipped beam the bulbs don't illuminate.
    I've opened the switch gear and it's very clean, I still sprayed contact cleaner all over it but it didn't help. All fuses bulbs and relays have been changed.
    I've tried my best to follow the wiring from the handle bar down to the frame and think I can see the connectors but again all look fine.

    Thanks Bobby
     
  7. Damien

    Damien Recovering sportsbike addict
    Subscriber

    Oct 2, 2020
    43
    18
    Carlow, Ireland
    Unfortunately visual inspection will tell you very little about the state of the electrical connections. Only the multi-meter test I outlined above will tell you for sure where the problem lies, otherwise you will just be guessing at the cause of the problem. If both the park light and headlight are wired to a single connector block then it should have 4 wires, 3 live and one earth. One live will get power when the ignition is turned on (park light), a second live will get power when the engine starts (dipped beam) and the 3rd live will get power when the high-beam switch is turned on. Also try following the wiring the other way round, i.e. start at the back of the headlight and locate the main connector block where it joins to the loom. No need to trace the switch to connector block wires unless the initial test proves that no power is being delivered to the connector block for the dipped beam wire.
     
  8. Bobby2023

    Bobby2023 New Member

    Feb 26, 2023
    3
    3
    Lancashire
    *UPDATE*

    Hi, I just wanted to update this thread (I thought I had)

    Basically it turned out to be the connection block under the tank. One of the pins had melted. The pin was replaced. Cost a bomb but I was out of ideas.
    Thank you all for all the help.

    Bobby
     
    • Like Like x 2
Loading...

Share This Page