Trophy triumph trophy 900 air filter

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  1. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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    Having I think a fuel problem with my Trophy 900...had a new ignition sensor fitted and the vehicle starts and runs normally up to about 70 mph and then dies as if it's run out of fuel at anything above that speed..sometimes less..runs ok around 60/65mph...had it in my local bike shop and the owner called me in after investigating the problem to tell me it probably needs complete new fuel lines,new fuel tap and float needle and all its connections and probably a new air filter and he was still not sure that would fix it...I allowed one of his mechanics to take it out for a spin to see how it ran after they had cleaned a load of dust and gunk out of the carbs and all the seatings..but it failed again and sucked gunk and dust into the areas they had already cleaned...Quoted some ridiculous figures for the parts and told me the air filter comes as a complete unit not just the filter..can anyone shed any light on that?....have sourced some of the parts myself and his quotes aren't that far out..by the time they've lobbed labour on and VAT I'm looking at about £500+..not a lot by todays standards but i'm now tiring of throwing money at it to keep it running...the guy was honest enough to give me a bell to see what he wanted me to do before ordering the parts...any advice or guidance will be most welcome at the moment
     
  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    It sounds to me like you've got muck in the fuel tank (built-up over years probably) so depending on your level of mechanical confidence I would be starting there.

    1. Remove tank and clean until there is no debris left;

    2. Clean the fuel petcock and replace the filters;

    3. Clean or replace all fuel lines - if you can find the correct diameter of the pipe you should be able to buy it by the meter - much much cheaper than Triumph parts.

    4. Change any fuel filters;

    4. Have the carbs ultra-sonically cleaned.

    Once you have done that lot, the fuel system should be perfectly clean. Now replace the air filter - for this I would suggest you contact Steve Lovatt as he has done one of these not too long ago.

    Or if you chose to, you could replace the original airbox with pod filters from the likes of K&N or DNA.

    Btw, what year is your Trophy and what are the last 5 or 6 digits of it's VIN, as there are several options ?
     
  3. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    I think the thread is probably called "air box removal" and will be under the Trident section.
    The air box/filter is a complete unit with the filter effectively sealed inside - many people choose to split the air box and then modify a K&N filter to fit so this can be cleaned and reused - there probably are threads on how to do this. The main advantage is that you can open the air box and slide out the filter without removing the carbs.
     
  4. t552

    t552 Senior Member

    Nov 17, 2014
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    you are best talking to Clive Wood. Get him to sort it or why not go on one of his maintenance courses for t3's
    Next one is Nov 19th
    Details on his fb page search "Clive Wood triumph" or search google same addy.
    07752477738.
    If you require carb parts get from Allens performance.
     
  5. stevethegoolie

    stevethegoolie Elite Member

    Oct 16, 2014
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    It is quite possible to open the air filter box and replace the filter element with a K&N jobby. Just be careful as the air box is made of brittle plastic which is easily damaged. Having done that, you can pretty well forget all about it unless you develop an insatiable urge to wash and re-oil it at a later date.:rolleyes:

    I know all this to be true, 'cos I've done it myself. If I can, you can.:eek:

    Yours

    Muppety Luddite.:p
     
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  6. tedred57

    tedred57 New Member

    Aug 23, 2015
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    ok chaps thank you very much for your advice...I've purchased a K&N air filter for much less than what my local dealer was quoting...i'm a member of a local bike club and they've put me in touch with PartfinderUk where I can source the parts a lot cheaper than what the dealer quoted...I have a good level of bike mechanics so should be able to do these repairs myself...going to take my time though and check I've done everything suggested...thinking about what the local dealer said whilst mooching about the internet researching parts and I get the distinct impression now he really didn't want to do the job...could be wrong but he certainly didn't rush to do the work when I took the Triumph in...did work on other bikes that came in after mine before I popped in and raised the issue...once again fellers Thank You
     
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  7. sprintdave

    sprintdave Nurse,he's out of bed again
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    hey its an old generation Hinckley Triumph bike and many of the dealers dont know jack shit about them, ie carbs etc. It is all pc work these days, not many genuine grease monkeys out there. t552 is right but we dont all have the skills or time to do it ourselves unfortunately. Great advice in here as usual tho.
     
  8. capt

    capt Elite Member

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    Have you tried draining the carburetor float bowls ? If there is water in them they can run fine until you begin to work the motor harder(more vacuum) lifts water into main jet and blocks it. As the suction isn't enough to pull the water through, Biglad had it right clean and replace as required in the fuel system.
     
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