Engine Guard That Protects The Shifter Recomendations?

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  1. brianmac

    brianmac New Member

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    As we all now know, the T100's are succeptible to pain in the ass problem if the shifter pedal gets an OOPS. I have not, but, i am asking if any one has some REAL ACTUAL EXPERIENCE with a Engine guard that protects the shifter, back in olds cool days, we called them crash bars.
     
  2. Dartplayer

    Dartplayer Crème de la Crème

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    Best to use the search to find what has been done :p
    https://www.thetriumphforum.com/threads/engine-bars-guards.26599/
     
  3. brianmac

    brianmac New Member

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    I hope you don't think I'm some kind of knucklehead but do you have any idea how much information comes back when you search engine guards in one of these sites? I'm here to get specific information, and if you can't provide it, just scroll past it please. I belong to Yamaha road Star clinic pages trike, pages sidecar pages
     
  5. brianmac

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    There are just too many different models of triumph s on this particular forum so I was hoping somebody with specific knowledge to give me specific information, if you don't have it just keep scrolling thank you, if you need any help with sidecars, road Stars, trikes, feel free to ask.
     
  6. Fork Lock

    Fork Lock Crème de la Crème

    Easy big fella! Sounds like you are getting a bit frustrated there.

    "Case Protectors", "Highway Bars" or "Engine Guards" as you called them are just that. The idea being that they protect the most expensive parts, not necessarily the smaller bolt on bits, like a shifter.

    Also, it depends on how big an "OOPS" we're talking about. In a simple tip over or low speed lay-down it's not likely the shifter would be damaged, but if it was, it's a replaceable part. It's on a pretty stout hunk of an aluminum mount and would bend without hurting the mount.

    I have a Bonnie Speedmaster. Basically, the same profile as your T100.

    I got the Triumph highway bars, but not for their protective qualities. I'm 6'2" and felt a bit cramped on the Speedy as I was coming off an 800 lb. Victory Touring Cruiser. I got them so I could attach pegs to give my legs a bit more extension. The pegs would just not stay put, so I drilled through the peg attachments into the highway bars and secured them with self-tapping screws. This gave the added benefit that the pegs protrude out past the shifter. The pegs are foldable, but their mounting lug extends the protection out another two inches or so.

    I did an interweb search (I Googled "T100 with highway bars") and came up with several options that might fill the bill.

    Here's a pic of my setup and a couple from the web. It looks like the Hepco bars would work, but the others seem a viable option, as well.

    Hope this helps.

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    A couple other options
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  7. brianmac

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    #7 brianmac, Nov 16, 2022
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    Here ya go, your bike has forward controls , my bonnie T100 has mid controls, or standard seating as it is called. so im still looking, but tks for effort. not frustrated, weary of keyboard wizards that would rather bitch than stitch. big believer in if u can help, do so. no guessing, no telling people to search unless they ask for blinker fluid recommendations, or shat that has been beat to death. also, if it has been beat to death, send the best link if possible
     
  8. Fork Lock

    Fork Lock Crème de la Crème

    I dunno...the Hepco bars appear to come out pretty far.

    Blinker fluid. LOL!

    That reminds me...Time to put the winter air in my tires.
     
  9. Pegscraper

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    The Triumph "dresser bars" for the Street Scrambler offer some protection for the gear shift, assuming of course that they will fit a T100. AFAIK they do fit a Street Twin but not sure if the frames are identical on the bikes. Fitting a shift lever with a spring loaded, fold back toe piece, as many dirt bikes have, is another option which will help if the bike goes down on it's LHS.
     
  10. andyc1

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    If your only worried about getting stranded without a shifter, wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to carry a spare one? Its not big, surely you could find a space to stash it under the seat or behind the side pods?
     
  11. Pegscraper

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    The "problem" I've heard of with the Bonny engine is that a hard impact on the shift lever can break part of the shifting mechanism inside the cases requiring at least a partial engine strip. I've heard of this on other engines in the past where the shift lever mounts directly onto the shift shaft, unlike a remote linkage setup where an impact on the shift lever is more likely to damage the linkage itself rather than gearbox internals. That's why dirt bikes with directly mounted shift levers (like my Husaberg) have a spring loaded toe piece to absorb some impact.
     
  12. Dartplayer

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    #12 Dartplayer, Nov 17, 2022
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    I gave you a link for options, including the model that you mentioned??
    Didn’t think about your ability, but noted you were new to the forum :worried:
    I have the same engine bars as above and they have been good for me on 1200 Speedmaster, but this also has forward controls.
    T100 in graphite
    https://www.worldoftriumph.com/collections/100079582-0-2?type=bonneville-t100

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  13. brianmac

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    Thanks peg scraper yeah that's the deal the shift shaft gets fubared. I'm not worried about getting stranded typically you can always get a gear to get you home. I was thinking that this was such a common thing that everybody know what the easy remedy to prevent it would be. It's kind of like I said before there's just so many different models I'd probably do better on a Bonneville site. Reluctantly I'll try Facebook
     
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    I put a spacer between on the shaft between the lever and case. The idea is that it stops the shaft being pushed in and bent. I made sure that it wasn't tight and the lever was freely moving and put a little grease on the spacer.

    Never tested in anger, but gave me some peace of mind.
     
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  15. Jet City

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    Yep, I did that too. A Delrin washer in the space between the shift lever and the engine case.

    Also, I have Sato Racing crash bungs on both my Bonneville and Speed Twin. Frankly they look sorta spindly on the bike, and I can’t speak for what they do for the Bonneville.

    On the Speed Twin, though, they worked VERY well when some joker backed into the ST and knocked it over. Mirror and bar end were the only victims and no damage to the shift lever at all.

    on Sato’s site, these are the crash bungs shown for the Thruxton. They work fine for the other twins, tho.
     
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  17. Pegscraper

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    I tried a similar lever, for a CRF230, on my Street Scrambler and the splines were different.
     
  18. ST Rat

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    You are correct. I let my Street Twin down on the left hand side and I could not downshift from 4th to 3rd. I bent the pivot plate and the other contact piece that acts on the detent wheel. My local dealer quoted at least £600 for the repair. I bought the parts and did it for £150 and 6 hrs of work. I did mine yesterday.

    If you drop a wc twin on the left hand side it is very likely you have a bill coming your way. It is a known weakness and Triumph have revised the design of the selector shaft twice!!

    I'm serusly thinking of cutting the gear shift half way through so it fails before the delicate bits inside bend in the event of a drop.
     
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