Tiger Sport Whining Chain Noise

Discussion in 'Tiger / Explorer' started by Ian Champ, May 9, 2024.

  1. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

    Nov 14, 2018
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    Had over 100mph on my StreetTwin on the centrestand in one moment of madness :eek:
    Just keep your weight forward and hold onto the front brake :scream:

    :joy::joy:
    How's it go, "this is why women live longer than men!"

    The abs seems more keen on the lower gears so get it up through the box to minimise abs interference.
     
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  2. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Might be wise to cable tie it back so you don't take it for a spin :confounded:
     
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  3. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    I came across the same issue some time back, the person had a new chain and sprockets fitted, then straight away it began to whine, when I looked at said chain it was the wrong pitch, although the website stated it was, a new chain and sprockets fitted and the noise disappeared, first I would check the chain is correct as you would be surprised at how many parts are labelled incorrectly.
     
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  4. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    Interesting. Having spoken to the garage I use for MOT’s etc., (he is also an avid biker), he has suggested exactly the same thing! The return date on the chain is past, and whilst I have contacted the seller, I do not expect a response. I am on tour from Friday this week, and couldn’t get a replacement chain from a reliable dealer until …Friday! So, I’ll have to wait until I return to order and fit… Hopefully this will cure the problem… Thanks.
     
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  5. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    You've fitted the wrong size chain then?
     
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  6. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    I ordered and received "DID Black X-Ring Chain 525VX3 122 for Triumph Tiger 850 Sport 2021-2023” and that is what it said on the box. For a 525 chain, the pitch should be 5/8” (0.625mm). I have just measured mine and it is 0.64” pitch!!!. On the centre stand it runs well - no clicking, tightening but obviously at speed it whines.
    Very odd, as it is too close to be an incorrect chain. Maybe a Chinese copy ???
     
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  7. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    If the chain itself is stamped 525 then that's what it'll be. I assume you mean 0.625" not mm. How have you measured it? I've never had any issues with DID chains.
     
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  8. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    Yes, of course I meat to state 0.625 inches! Slip of the finger!!
    I also have never had an issue with DID, but when you have spent as much time and effort checking all other possibilities, all that remains is the impossible.
    As Iceman said, he has heard of an issue with pitch on a chain, so I need to investigate...
     
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  9. Dave_M

    Dave_M New Member

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    Did you manage to find out what the cause was? I've the same issue with a DID X ring, ruled out alignment and tension but bike is in for a service in 2 weeks
     
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  10. blacktiger

    blacktiger Member

    May 14, 2023
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    I think your last sentence might be the case. If I were you I'd visit a reputable local shop and look at another chain and measure it before paying for it.
    I've bought my last few chains and sprockets from "Squaredeals Triumph" and not had a problem ever with them. https://www.squaredeals-ltd.co.uk/t...5-122-x-ring-chain--sprockets-kit-27885-p.asp
     
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  11. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    Yeah.As it turned out, whilst the pitch was in fact OK, the chain was not! Had to chuck it in the bin finally - seller didn’t want to know or even reply. Think it was a Chinese chocolate chain...
     
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  12. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    Yeah.As it turned out, whilst the pitch was in fact OK, the chain was not! Had to chuck it in the bin finally - seller didn’t want to know or even reply. Think it was a Chinese chocolate chain…
    Bought an RKD and so much better, although still a slight whine as you go through the gears if you don’t change up quickly enough! Also have an oscillating noise at low rpm but not enough to investigate!
     
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  13. Stuart 1

    Stuart 1 Member

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    I have also just replaced the original chain and sprockets with jt front and rear and DID vx3 gold chain and its whining too....tried everything so far so just ordered the oe parts from triumph.....hopefully that'll put it right.
     
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  14. Stuart 1

    Stuart 1 Member

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    I have also just replaced the original chain and sprockets with jt front and rear and DID vx3 gold chain and its whining too....tried everything so far so just ordered the oe parts from triumph.....hopefully that'll put it right.
     
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  15. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    Kind of. I bought an RK X Chain (very helpful people there), and fitted it to the 850. Made the slack 40mm and the noise was much less, but still a bit of a whine in low gears as I accelerated up through the box. At cruising speed very little to complain about.
    Then changed the slack to book recommendations (25mm - 35mm) to 30mm. Notice that noise is worse! Will set it back to 40mm (or even a tad more) and learn to live with it...
     
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  16. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

    Sep 28, 2023
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    Really hope I don’t have to go down that route! 3 chains in as many months would be a very expensive fix...
     
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  17. Stuart 1

    Stuart 1 Member

    Dec 5, 2021
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    The original chain I got 21000 so can't complain.....it just goes to show original parts from the dealer is the best option.....I bought the DID VX3 chain from Kwackies off ebay at £85 and I've contacted them......it's done 250 miles and has a tight spot already!!! So decided to go to my triumph dealer......hopefully it'll stop that bloody noise...
     
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  18. Ian Champ

    Ian Champ Member

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    Interesting! It was Kwackies who supplied my 'Chinese chocolate' chain…
    Avoid them like the plague!
     
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  19. Stuart 1

    Stuart 1 Member

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    #39 Stuart 1, Aug 17, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2024
    2 chocolate chains then.....not good.......I'll await a reply and if not happy with response I'll report them to ebay....
     
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  20. blacktiger

    blacktiger Member

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    Try buying from "Squaredeals Triumph". I've used them for years and never had a problem with anything they've supplied.
     
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