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Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by flapinflares, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. David Cooper

    David Cooper Triumph Rocketeer.
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    If the filter's tight I always use the old fashioned never fails method, long screwdriver hammered through the filter and twist it off:)
     
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  2. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    Over the years Triumph kept changing the size of the oil filter so I now have a collection of removal tools 20240618_120617.jpg
     
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  3. Martine

    Martine Senior Member

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    And all black...clearly need to add another to the collection. May I recommend pink?
     
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  4. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    I'm hoping I never need to add another to my collection, especially pink even though it is my wife's favorite colour :eek:
     
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  5. LexvanH

    LexvanH New Member

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    I had an issue with an overtightened oil filter once. The dealer had serviced my Honda VFR and when I came home I saw my rear tyre covered in oil. I appeared that the oil filter was tightened so hard it had buckled and later cracked and leaked all over the bike on the way home. The dealer immediately came to pick up the bike and fix it, but this could have ended a lot worse.
     
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  6. LexvanH

    LexvanH New Member

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    I had an issue with an overtightened oil filter once. The dealer had serviced my Honda VFR and when I came home I saw my rear tyre covered in oil. I appeared that the oil filter was tightened so hard it had buckled and later cracked and leaked all over the bike on the way home. The dealer immediately came to pick up the bike and fix it, but this could have ended a lot worse.
     
  7. Eldon

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    Overtightening things can have many repercussions;
    Stripped threads
    Stretched bolts
    Damaged fittings
    Etc.
    The classic is tightening an oil leak even further when the gasket/seal/o ring is damaged. No matter how tight you do it, the joint will not be oil tight if the circumferential pressure isn't somewhere near uniform.

    A bolt (thread) works by applying a clamping force between two or more components. If the bolts stretched into its "plastic zone" which comes after its " elastic limit" has been breached, then the assembly is just waiting to inevitably fail.
     
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  8. ajc400

    ajc400 Senior Member

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    I'm a classic over-tightener, used to drive my Dad mad when I was helping in the workshop!! :confused:
     
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  9. Martine

    Martine Senior Member

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    Wow, @LexvanH , that's got to win the prize for most over-tightened oil filter of all time. Glad it wasn't a lot worse! That should have earned you free oil changes for life at that dealership, but you'd never want to go back there even for free after that experience!
     
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  10. Martine

    Martine Senior Member

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    @David Cooper That looks like a never fail method! When I was involving myself in HH's task with my helpful inputs:blush:, on another not-to-be-named Triumph site I came across someone's description of that method and their sinking feeling when the can started to rip and then their elation when the filter broke loose just before full failure. So, it does seem to be a never-fail method!
     
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  11. TRIPLE X

    TRIPLE X Senior Member

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    That dealer's incompetence could have had VERY serious consequences.
     
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  12. Martine

    Martine Senior Member

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    I love it! @ajc400, you're the one person who's copped to being the overtightener...you can't possibly be the one guy working at all of these dealerships everywhere! You must be the trainer for them all!
     
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  13. Armando Morales

    Armando Morales Noble Member

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    those pesky overtighten filters !

    My filter removing tool has been through some rough times
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  14. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    It was annual service time for my 765 STRS so today I duly completed this, I did the 12,000 service last year including the valve check, and these were all within the tolerances, back to todays service, the dealers only do an oil and filter change, check for any stored faults on the ECU, a chain lube and a check over, well that is not for me, I remove the belly pan to give a thorough clean around the headers etc, check the balance of the throttle bodies, check cooling fan operation, ABS pump, Throttle body sensor position, Etc Etc, new OEM oil filter and sump plug washer, fully synthetic engine oil, checked strength of engine coolant, checked front and rear brake fluid for signs of contamination, removed front and rear brake pads for calliper clean, thorough chain clean and lube, checked all instrument functions and lights, indicators etc etc. tyre pressures have remained the same since fitting (I do check prior to every ride), and re set the service interval. Changed the exhaust (again) and put the Yoshimura back on, I have 3 exhausts plus the original, although I have never used it from new. I bought both a rear K Tech shock and front fork kit, I fitted the rear shock but to be honest it was not a night and day improvement, it would make a difference for racing, but for the odd track day and spirited road riding was it worth 2.5K probably not, so over they went to a good friend for his Supersport road race machine, he rates them over stock for racing. What has impressed me are the new Bridgestone S23 tyres, these are fantastic, I always run Metzler Racetech RRs, but these give a plusher ride over our UK roads, and the grip they offer is brilliant. Anyway all done and ready for the S100 Road Racing in just over 2 weeks time. Ride safe all from an ageing Rocker.

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  15. Martine

    Martine Senior Member

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    Great detailed post about your annual service. Your reference led me to read about the "friendly races." Love that name. Looking forward to hearing about your racing when you get back!
     
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  16. Eldon

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    #19756 Eldon, Jun 21, 2024
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    Not actually today, but yesterday.

    Up at 06.00 and stuck x4 hours overtime in to complete an order, then we're off ;)

    Mate comes and we decided A64 for an hour to kill a few miles was best way foward, 12.00 and the fun begins, me on a 675r ( his previous bike) and him on a 765rs.

    Jumped off the 64 at Castle Howard and it's going to be lanes from here. A few lanes and bumps later I realised the bladder was full :eek:

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    After a quick stop progress was made maximising Calimoto's choice of back lanes.

    Food and drink required so a tee junction showed Hutton Le Hole right. I indicated right had more chance of lunch than left so off we went to the old schoolhouse cafe.
    Lovely homemade cornish pasties and scotch egg :yum
    Honeycomb ice cream for pudding :blush:


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    Up and over the moors to do a circular of Rosedale Chimney without actually using that road.

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    Then back to Squires for more cornish pasties and ice cream, no not together, five minutes apart :joy:
     
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  17. Eldon

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    #19757 Eldon, Jun 21, 2024
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    Once back at Squires, which was obviously going to be busy due to the weather, look at those blue UK skies @Sandi T

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    A wander after food and pop showed a few interesting bikes.

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    This is a homebuilt and painted VFR 750. I spoke to the owner and asked him, is it an RC30 as a friend has a few and this is but isn't one?
    He went on to tell me it was once a VFR that he bought with the intention of making something nice. He's modelled it on an RC30 but with an Ohlins Aprillia front end. I admired his attention to simple little details like the petrol tank. Apparently RC30 tanks are rarely about and are priced around £6k which he said was a firm no chance. Consequently he had an idea and so set about cutting x2 other tanks up, I think he said one was an NC30, joined them up with weld and achieved the appearance he wanted. Very nicely done!

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    Now this just struck me as lovely and clean, a very nice example :blush:


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    And what about this beastie?
    A CBR 600 powered trail bike with twin petrol tanks and a host of other mods including what looks like a vfr single sided rear end.
     
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  18. Iceman

    Iceman Crème de la Crème

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    These are my kind of roads, S100 is shaping up to be a great event as usual.

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  19. FellZebra

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    I sometimes ride over to Squires for a brew, always some interesting bikes to look at. Decent bikers cafe that is,I like it there.
    Looks like a good day out @Eldon
     
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  20. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Let me know next time you're going as I only live a few miles down the road ;)
     
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