Triumph Novice Trying To Restore !

The current carb is a concentric carb, rather than the old side chamber amal that was originally fitted. The link below leads to a group of pictures, one of which shows the old carb.

The silencers are of a type that increases the noise, rather than the elegant cans similar to the ones in this photo: https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24885/lot/443/?category=results

You can also review the much smaller and flatter rocker box covers in one of the other photos in that group.

 

I will open the parts book up in my copy of the Triumph Oracle Database for reference and have a look at what else I can comment on.

How prescriptive are you about originality? For example the rocker box caps are not OE but I think they are great, having fitted the same to my own preunit machine. Also the carb should be a Monobloc, which you can still purchase but if the Concentric works why change it?

Regarding the oil leak I would have a good look at the primary chaincase.

Give me a few days and I will come back to you.

 

Just to offer an alternative view regarding originality.
I see a lot of vintage Triumph's (100 years old) and while many have been restored to look really amazing, they've also lost their sense of history.
How much do you want originality (and perceived value by others' or resale value) and how much do you want a bike that belongs to the 1960's and can tell a story of it's life though the previous 60 years?
It is a very fine balance and not one that is easily achieved.

 

Only for 62 and 63. 64 saw the deletion of the bikini fairing in the UK with the US models never having it at all.

You still haven’t said how prescriptive you wish to be on originality.

 

I am totally with you on this. I bought my 61 Tbird in 66 when I was 19 and there is no way I would ever part with it.

So there is putting it back to absolute OE and there is doing so with a little relaxation as I assume you want to ride the machine. For example I have already mentioned the TLS front brake, which is 7” as I suspected and the other relaxation I would go for is to convert to 12 volt electrics for better lights, if only for daylight running.

If the carb works you will be faced with the dilemma of is it worth spending £350 just for originality. Tough decisions which only you can make.

I am waiting for a response from my contact who has access to the Meriden build records which, if he kindly has a peek, will at least determine which market it was built for.

Watch this space.

 

Steve, this is what my source has come back with.

It checks out as a 1962 model year T100SS, the first year of that model. The 1962 model year started at H25252 on 4th September, the first T100SS was H25502 on 13th September 1961. So this bike is a very early one. Factory records are as follows:

T100SS H25791 Engine built on 20th September 1961. It was dispatched to Sid Moram Ltd. Wrexham Road Corner, Slough, Bucks on 25th September 1961 as a 1962 model. Finished in Kingfisher blue & Silver Sheen, lined gold.

So you will need those bikini fairings that you have found and you now know the colour scheme of the bike.

This is the guy to go to for your paint and he will advise which colour goes where on the machine.

http://www.msmotorcyclesuk.com/

 

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/old-vehicles

Get your vehicle’s original registration number
You may be able to register an old vehicle under its original registration number if either:

• it’s never been registered at DVLA
• it has an age-related registration number

To do this, you’ll have to:

• follow the instructions for new registrations
• fill in form V765 - ‘Application to register a vehicle under its original registration number’
• get form V765 endorsed by a vehicle owners’ club
• provide a recent photo of the vehicle and documentary evidence that links it to the original number, for example the original log book

Send the forms to ‘K and R’ at DVLA.

K and R DVLA
SA99 1ZZ

After you’ve applied
DVLA will issue a V5C registration certificate and give you either:

• the original registration number - if this happens, you will not be allowed to transfer it or put it onto retention at a later date
• another number appropriate to the age of the vehicle - if this is a non-suffix or prefix number, it will also be non-transferable

The owners club you need to go to get the endorsed V765 is the Triumph Owner’s Motor Cycle Club https://www.tomcc.org/Home/Services who will
Charge you £10 plus a year’s membership at £22. If you do join the club (you don’t have to but they will still charge the same) be very wary of the membership Secretary who also runs the forum and acts as if the club is his personal property.

What reg do you have on the bike at the moment?

 

When you have sorted the registration out you need to get it swopped over to the historic vehicles register which will give you VED at zero cost and no requirement to submit the machine for an annual MOT.

Also use a silver on black number plate.

 

Do you know what the original reg was if this is its reregistered number. At least it has no year letter suffix or prefix.

From what I’ve read http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf it would appear that the owner in 79 decided to keep the original number as a personal plate and therefore had to reregister the machine. Because it originally had a pre 63 reg it was given an age related number i.e. no year letter suffix, which in 79 would have been either a T or a V.

So, before you waste your money with TOMCC I would enquire from DVLA if the original number is now known and available. Otherwise stick with what you have, which indicates that the reregistration was in the Birmingham area.

 

Have just opened my Triumph Oracle Database to look at the parts manual that I will need to refer to and I have come up with these two. What do you have to hand re parts lists?