Now don't get me going on that Edward Jenner...robbing you all of your human rights one syringe at a time, damn those scientists and physicians for saving all those millions of worthless lives, what were they thinking
The original virus came from Wuhan China, it was created in a lab from another form of the corona virus found in animals and changed to infect humans through gain of function research paid for by the American NIH. You can read all about it from the source. Here is the link to Dr. Fauci's emails obtained through a freedom of information request. Hope you have some time, it's a ton of reading. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561-leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails
I've already responded to this one in the thread, which should save everyone some time. Here’s the problem with your links now, Traveller. Over the course of many messages, culminating in your absolute refusal to acknowledge the overall findings in a research paper that you posted, because you thought you could cherry pick from it to suit your own paranoid narrative, you have no credibility left.
As if everyone on this thread doesn't cherry pick. Of course we do, people are finding bits of information that support their opinion.
Don't you know I'm from Northern Ireland... No Surrender! You probably wouldn't understand Besides, I've got more important things to do with my time
What you call information are mainly fake news, conspiracy theories, and stuff coming from a religious sect. We all see that apart you and maybe the other genius. Once again don't get the jab if you don't want. Don't feel obliged to be proselyte about all the lies you trust.
Apparently vaccines haven't saved millions of lives...I'm out, you just can't debate with plain wilful blind stupidity...
Try reading the thread again. You haven't come up with any substantial evidence, just made spurious claims based on links to dubious sources and a pre-existing prejudice. Please explain away the paper that you posted. If you can do that, I'm listening.
Saved "millions of lives" vs an ailment with a minimum untreated survival rate of over 98% and of which its own creators say provides minimal protection.. HA! But I'm the stupid one. Have a nice day then, Prof. Brilliance!
PatW wrote that "vaccineS saved millions of life" That's clear vaccines include the principle of vaccines since Pasteur invented it. What's wrong with that? Yes it saved millions of life. 1919-21, spanish flu killed between 20 and 5O million of people. It's not difficult to consider vaccines helped to contain the numbers since that. Now reported to COVID, since 2 years the rate of vaccinated people that die from covid drastically reduced. non vaxxed death rate is 45 times higher in France for example. With an average 120-150 000 death in our "small" european countries since 2 years, extended to the world a million of life saved is not something crazy. Mathematically is makes sense. Now you have more elements to answer who is stupid.
Spanish flu comparison now… so- "theoretics." Got it. And they preach on, and on, and on, and on… and dribble their pathetic spiteful vitriol from their contrived ivory towers. "Soapbox personified."
No I believe the word I used was "pathetic." Since you guys insist upon name-calling here I'm going to call it like it is.
I don't care the world you use. Let me use my poor english skills words. I add "grotesque" because it's the same in my langage.