Rant of the day

Jeez, “where there’s blame, there’s a claim” is mutating into one sick world of litigious avarice which I keep thinking we are testing the boundaries of... and I am frequently reminded we’re not there yet!

 

The best thing we can do now is right the wrong and painlessly euthanise this poor girl. This also sends the clear message to all doctors that they must never, ever recommend any women has a baby. Too expensive if anything goes wrong.

 

Spammers
Even NFL now??

 

Give her the money if she tops herself (not serious btw but I don’t think she’ll live by her convictions…)

 

Reported

 

I wonder, if she gets millions, can we claim back the cost of all the benefits she's ever had paid for by the taxpayer. I know I could never afford a horse and to take up showjumping.

 

One of my brothers in law needs two new hips. Pre covid, he went into hospital THREE times to have the op and it was cancelled at the last minute each time. Throughout the pandemic nothing. His pain has become excruciating to the point where he can't eat and he is wasted away. He is now paying £15,000 to have the op done privately within the week. I've been waiting a couple of years to get a hernia sorted, I can live with that. What I absolutely hate is doctors and surgeons doing ops when people waiting on the NHS are dying.
Why doesn't the government put a temporary ban on doctors doing private work until the NHS list is back to a reasonable level. I think I know the reason, and its wrong. Twats.

 

And if you don’t have a critical issue forget about any care. I have a seborrheic keratosis wart on my upper lip which was zapped at the hospital earlier this year. It has grown back and I had a consultation with my doctor who again referred me to the hospital. Got a letter from the surgery to ring hospital to arrange an appointment. So gave them a call, I was told that I would have to wait a minimum of 18 weeks before I could expect to get an appointment. And you can guess the reason for the delay; the pandemic wtf

 

I think you've missed my point. If all those private "operation hours" were put into the NHS tomorrow, all the people that have been waiting 2/3 years would get sorted. The operations would still be done in private hospitals as they are now. Private hospitals carry out many ops for the NHS and they are more efficient. I, my wife and many thousands of people have been treated in private hospitals but through the NHS.

 

You're not fucking listening. Fuck Google too.

 

I’m really sorry to hear about your brother in law… that’s an awful situation for him…it’s not great for you either!
Truth is that we live in a free society and to mandate someone’s ability to freely work as they see fit doesn’t mesh with a lot of highly held principles of this country. Off the top of my head, National Service is the last time that was done, but I’m pulling that out of the air, so I’m happy to be corrected!
I could tell you about chronic mismanagement within the NHS, but that doesn’t solve the problem either!
As far as I can tell, there is no simple way to solve the huge “none-essential” surgical backlog. The waiting lists exceed the current available capacity (private & NHS) and a lot of real estate has been taken out of service due to unsafe conditions! (My local hospitals trust is undergoing huge expenditure to replace shoddy theatres).
Money has been poured into the NHS, but with all the advances in surgical techniques… more and more operations are being offered whilst less and less beds are available.
The only way this will be seriously addressed is by a government that has the NHS as its top priority, but that potato is too hot!

 

I'm aware of the inept chronic mis-management. Pyramids of inept wankers stealing a living with pre meetings about meetings and getting outside consultancies in (costing thousands) to make simple decisions so blame can be avoided. Many millions and maybe billions are wasted, it needs cutting out but who has the balls to do it ?
Just to give one tiny example. There was a pilot scheme a couple of years ago where an Out of Hours care provider in Greater Manchester gave out packs to homeless people. These packs contained TENTS among many other things. The first thing the people did was sell the tent to get their next fix ffs. Another genius idea by some fuckbrain NHS committee. This is just one tiny example of where all those NHS billions get spent. If you think it all goes on doctors, nurses, ops and medicines, think again.

 

I've always used 2 dismal examples to illuminate the abject failure of government run healthcare- the US Veterans Administration and the UK. Now that it's come to the US at large I have a 3rd- "The ACA" aka "Obozocare." The entire shitshow was rammed down our throats by some of the worst office holders this country has ever had to endure in order to put us on the hook for all the ghetto delinquents, illegal aliens, and various other parasites who aren't ever going to pay their medical expenses anyway. They just use their local ER as their free primary care provider. Always have, always will. It was implemented solely as a wealth redistribution scheme so their crack babies and routine health issues would be covered by the rest of us. Right after it went into effect you saw a distinct drop in timeliness and quality of care over here.

Fortunately for me I'm exempt because I maintain private healthcare insurance. In fact I maintain 2 policies.

 

@Golgotha... I would suggest that if you’ve been using the NHS as one dismal example of abject failure for a long time, you probably have been shooting wide of the mark... it is however, falling heavily towards that direction currently. There are still good services to the public, but the cracks are definitely showing... like @andypandy describes.

 

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. If you're satisfied with "some services" then by all means carry on. I've seen and heard enough to know that that system is one of the most defective in the entire civilized world.

 

It is heavily and widely abused. If you pop into say Wythenshaw A&E (Greater Manchester) on any evening, it's like walking onto the Star Wars set, you know, the one in the first SW film where they walk into a bar and it's full of all kinds of weird characters.

 

You said “abject failure”… this puts me in mind of places like Sierra Leone. I guess that would now lead you into a discussion about “civilised world”?
But I’m more interested in what your measures are for your opinion on the NHS? Is it from your own experience… close family and friends… Internet chat like this… specific research from ratified medical media or from news media outlets?
As for being satisfied..? No, I’m not really but thats my working knowledge, I know it can be better because I worked in it when it felt better. I’ve seen our NHS change and management (from government down) is a big issue, but it’s not the only issue.
There are a significant quantity of people who are perfectly happy with the service provision. They get what they need in a timely enough fashion and they don’t have to worry about how it’s paid for because it’s coming out of general taxation (mainly)…

 

Good mentor of mine(proper East Ender from back in the day) resorted to paying cash not long ago for a critical procedure. Luckily he had it. It was a combination of wait time that he didn't have and unwillingness to take the chance he'd get ineffective care. He's but one example I know.

If you're rolling the dice on proper medical care("right place/right time") there's something intrinsically wrong, full stop. And countries like Sierra Leone don't even count unless you happen be there(which I have, twice) and you're dealing with something like a traumatic amputation, a punctured lung, and have no recourse.

Government run healthcare is farce. It's just another way for them to intrude upon and control your life. There's no way I'll ever change my mind. I've been wise enough, and fortunate enough, to maintain that proper medical insurance for most of my adult life. All it took was having to deal with VA hospitals a few times in my 20's, and upon discussing that shtshow with people doomed to various nationalized healthcare systems they are strikingly similar. VA will straight up kill you and have done so to 2 fit dudes I knew who went in for elective orthoscopic knee surgery. Similar failures and lapses of professionalism make the news all the time.

Like I said, I'll never change my mind on this and have maintain what is now the luxury of private insurance, which sets me apart from the flocks of sheep who embrace Big Brother, I've witnessed, endured, and been told way too much to ever even consider settling for anything less. Unfortunately with the advent of socialized medicine in the US the cancer is spreading here… pun intended. I thank God every day that I fall into a different class of patient.

Keep an eye on those dice. Hopefully they're not loaded some day.

 

I don’t think anyone is trying to change your mind fella… the formal start of the NHS in 1946 as a free to all institution may well be regarded as the U.K. government needing to get the work force into a working shape and keep them that way. There would have been plenty of people around that time with little money and significant medical needs… social engineering at work.

(Didn’t help the U.K. bouncing back financially post war, We were massively out performed)

 

It is a fact that millions of people are not in the fortunate position that you enjoy.
This being the case they have to rely on the NHS. Whilst I appreciate that it has its problems, as a nation we would be in a much worse place without it, warts and all.