speed Triple 1050 starting issue

Hi and welcome in, generally with all these issues it ends up being a knackered battery, if you search these forums you'll find loads of threads. Good luck

 

Hi Roger, first of all let me welcome you to our Triumph Playground - enjoy.

Secondly, random starting or not. The next time you are at home and it doesn't start up straight, don't try again until you've connected your car battery (engine not running).If it fires up immediately then your battery is on it's way out. Try putting it on charge overnight, then leave for 1 hour before re-installing in the bike.

You don't say the age of the bike and you don't say if you leave your bike connected to a battery conditioner when not in use - but my guess is you'll soon be shopping for a new battery.

Just for your info: on at least some of the fuel injected Triumph bikes there is a parameter within the ECU to the effect that if the standing battery voltage is below a certain figure, the ECU won't allow the starter motor any juice to even try to turn the bike over. This is apparently there to protect the ECU and it's settings.

On all modern bikes battery condition is paramount, that's why so many bikers nowadays use Optimate's or similar.

 

Have a look here, for a full list
But start at the battery

 

Hi Roger, I don't know if your bike is the same as mine in this respect) but mine was already wired in for a socket to allow easy connection of a charger. All I need to buy was the socket and appropriate plug.

 

Hi Roger, you may have already sorted this, but I found my 2009 Speed Triple with a standard battery a bugger to start if I did a short journey, stalled in traffic etc. It would always start from home, but if the battery wasn't in tip top condition and charge it wouldn't want to know. Sometimes leaving it a few minutes worked and sometimes it didn't. In the end I replaced the original battery with a Motobatt MBTX12U (one of those yellow jobs they put in jetskis and things) - it has a bit more cranking power and hasn't let me down since. It only just fits under the seat so see if you can find someone you can take the bike to and make sure it fits before you commit (they're a bit more expensive than the standard battery but I reckon it's definitely worth it)

 

Hi I have the same issues with my 1050 2009 and just replaced the battery and still same issue. If I leave the bike to cool down or 20mins it will start
Not sure what to do as had the better and alternator checked at the workshop and they said all was well. Reason it went in was couldn't get it out of 1st gear sometimes and still got that issue too. Its as if the battery is just not up to it or some other thing is overheating.

 

I recommend checking the voltage regulator to make sure it is operating properly. They don't last forever. Even with a new battery a bad VR will drain the battery.

 

I'd get a multimeter accross the battery terminals and get a reading at the following states:
Ignition off and engine off
Ignition on engine off
Engine on tickover
Engine above 4,000 rpm

Let us know and we can tell you if it is charging right or if battery is a dud

 

Brand new battery replaced last week, shop checked all the voltages and said stator, alternator, oil and all general checks where OK. I ran it to work today and then home checking the bike an it did start. It had a GS gt12b-4 battery and a shop put a new JMT Jmtx12-bs. I just noticed the latter is 10ah and the GS Was 10.5ah. Now thinking they put the wrong battery in it. The battery lookup website says a yuasa ytx12 bs 10.5 ah. Think its a visit on sat to sort this out.

 

It's tries to start but continues to sound as if it drains the battery so end up leaving it.

 

Sounds to me like you may have either a weak/worn brushes starter motor, a failing starter solenoid, or possibly a poor/loose connection at either of them.
If you haven’t already, you want to have a look through the link crispey posted earlier.

 

With that size battery you could fit a Motobatt size 14 battery that I understand is physically the same size
You would have an increase in CCA which is the immediate power available when starting

 

Yeap went ahead and ordered the motobat mbtx12u so will see if that works better. Pulled away at the lights again and couldnt shift out of 1st. Pure twat moment. Will update on how the new battery works, also might take the fly screen off to get more an old style to highlight those twin round lamps.

 

Fitted motobat 14ah cca200 battery, same as posted, it does have some extra grunt when trying to start after a short run and turning off. I may need to try a combination of taking keys out leaving on stand for min then start, plus turn ignition off and restart etc as after putting on stand you can hear the electrical sound of something powering off. Do I need to fully charge the battery on a charger as it difficult to get a good 1hr run in this London traffic. Also have to litteraly boot the gear level from 1 to 2nd. Driving me crazy.

 

Actually meant to add when I had the clutch in on 1st gear at lights revving the engine and the bike was trying to move forward as if slightly in gear. Anyone any ideas. I am picking up on the other comments in the forum to test.

 

Think it's the starter motor as new battery has way more power but had to use a charge booster to start today and stalled at the lights to work, had to leave ir there on the street all day and return with the charge booster ready and it started. Hearing funny electrical sound like some motor is sticking. Also had heavy rain so could be a wiring issue. The s3 saga continues

 

Are you sure the enhanced battery power has good cabling and connections to the starter?

A bad joint just drains the whole thing.

Is the starter solenoid performing as expected?
A friend's 675 displayed a poor battery but armed with a voltmeter I wasn't convinced. It turned out to be a poor solenoid.

 

electric were a wet and definitely sounded like it was some type of motorised sound that was not sounding good, maybe wet, battery maybe not charging or loose connection somewhere.