Bonnie using more fuel than normal?

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Monkeyjoe, Feb 22, 2016.

  1. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    Hey all,
    I put my 2014 Bonnie which I've had from new in for it's 12,000 ml service at a local Motorcycle garage September last year, the first 2 services were done at the Triumph dealer...everything seems ok apart from it's using more fuel than normal.... I set the trip meter every time I fuel up, it would normally go to around 120 - 135ish miles before the fuel warning light came on, now it comes on at around 90 mls... I noticed it straight away 1st time after I fuelled up after the service, but ran it a few times to make sure, then covered it up for winter, ran it last weekend and same result.... I'm going back to the garage to tell them about it, but just wondered if anyone had any ideas or info that could help me diagnose the problem?
     
  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

    Sep 25, 2013
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    Is the bike in std. trim or have you modified anything?
     
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  3. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Definitely get in touch with the garage, surprised you didn't do it earlier. What did they do at the service? Check the valves? Re-map? Is she running ok? Best find out from them before doing anything yourself. Hope you get it sorted.
     
  4. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    No , I havnt modified anything, I'm not techy enough mate
     
  5. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    As far as I know they did the standard 12,000ml service, which is quite a big service
     
  6. Tigcraft

    Tigcraft Unheard of Member

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    Yes I'll add to that as it's well below std!
     
  7. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Have you checked the condition of your plugs? They can tell you what your fuel mixture is like. Also having a look around I came across this :
    Also we've had some oil temperature sensors go wrong in the past. One of the effects can be an increase in fuel consumption. The oil temp sensors acts a bit like an automatic choke, if it senses low oil temperature it assumes the engine is cold and it richens the mixture.

    Testing the Oil temperature sensor Access to this component's connections is a bit harder. The sensor is situated on top of the oil cooler, LH side. The connections are situated right up under the tank, on a little 2-way plug and socket tied up next to the ignition coil. It can't be reached without removing the tank. The readings should be: With a Cold engine At ambient temperature of -10ºC.............8.5 to 10.25 Kilo Ohms. At ambient temperature of 20ºC............2.35 to 2.65 Kilo Ohms. With a warm engine..............................200 to 400 Ohms.
     
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  8. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    If as you say you're not techy, then in my opinion there is only one thing to do - tell the garage who did the work to fix it.
     
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  9. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Biglad's right (as he often is)!
    That is a low figure for the bike - my old carbed Bonnie with Toga exhausts, K&N filter and Bellmouth intake managed 135 miles before reserve was needed with 33000 on the clock.
     
  10. Yaya rider

    Yaya rider Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2016
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    I got the petrol light come on after 100 miles on Sunday - will keep an eye on it. I think it's running a bit rich anyway. It's idling at 1,000 rpm. Will have to check the book when I'm next with the bike.
     
  11. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Hi Yaya, I can't remember what bike you've got but if it's a Bonny then the advised tickover speed is 1050 +/- 50rpm, at normal operating temp.

    It's a balance between ensuring there are enough revs for the battery to be charging whilst ticking over and ensuring optimum engine/gearbox operation.
     
  12. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    I've got the bike booked in at the garage which serviced it at 8am this Friday morning.... thanks for the help and info guys, I'll keep you posted
     
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  13. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Good luck, will be interested to hear what it is.
     
  14. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    I wonder if they did anything to the brakes which has caused them to drag. That would cause your fuel consumption to rise like a good'un !
     
  15. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    Well,they had the bike all day, said they checked plugs, fuel lines, etc.... And could find nothing wrong, cleaned my air filter, I asked why it wasn't replaced during the 12000ml service, they said it didn't look dirty enough.... I suppose that's why it only cost £150 instead of £400 quoted by the triumph dealer.... I'm thinking now, if it's still the same, I'll take it to the Triumph dealer and get them to service it again, at least it should be done properly, and their diagnostic machine will maybe pick up any problems.... Lesson learned
     
  16. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Tough luck there, hope they sort it at triumph, guess you don't need the full service done tho' just get them to look into the prob, unless you think they didn't change oil filter etc and used olive oil!?!
     
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  17. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    Dunno crispey, maybe mate!
    I'm going to Spain on it in July, with the missus on the back, so want peace of mind it's ok..... Ill maybe just get them to stick it on the diagnostic and see if they come up with anything
     
  18. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

    Sep 25, 2013
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    Hi MJ, why don't you change the air filter yourself. Then at least you will have eliminated that as the source of the higher than normal mpg?

    It's a very easy job to do requiring only three nuts undone.

    Also check your tyre pressures. If low it can affect MPG. Front 33psi; rear 41psi
     
  19. Monkeyjoe

    Monkeyjoe Active Member

    Feb 16, 2014
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    Yeah bud, I plan on ordering one this week and fitting it, see if it makes a difference, I check tyre pressures regularly, with an Oxford pressure gauge, and use a Michelin foot pump, both pretty accurate so it can't be that, if changing the filter doesn't work, next step would be to get it on the triumph diagnostic, and see what they come up with
     
  20. PETER CLARKE

    PETER CLARKE Senior Member

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    Carb or injectors sealing seat fuel dribble into engines it appears that fuels used today are causing problems with carbs where they need sonic cleaning and not so often injectors as well I have cleaned injectors my using neat forte injector fuel system cleaner you had to start engine with petrol then add neat fuel cleaner, engine would run like rats and fast engine revs to keep engine running, 2 tins did the job of cleaning injectors this operation needs to be done outside and care not to get this on your paintwork.
     
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