Jacking Up A Thunderbird

Discussion in 'Thunderbird' started by Zoso, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Zoso

    Zoso Member

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    After a bit of reading and watching youtube videos I decided, that although Triumph say it's fine to raise the bike by placing the jack under the sump,I wasn't convinced it wasn't steady enough to start messing around underneath it. Here's what I did which worked well.....

    1) place a block of wood under the stand to try and level the bike
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    2) using a standard motorcycle jack with a bit of wood the same size as the sump I jacked up the bike
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    Once the bike was raised high enough I placed axle stands below the ends of the swing arm and then lowered the jack so the weight of the bike was supported on the stands. This kept the bike steady without worrying about having the weight on the sump. When I was done I raised it back up, removed the axle stands then lowered the jack until it was back on the side stand - bit of care needed here as the bike needs to tilt a bit to get the stand back onto the wooden block :eek:

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  2. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    Interesting Zoso thanks for sharing like myself your not convinced about lifting the full weight of the bike on the sump :)

    So you went and lifted the full weight of the bike on the sump with a piece of chipboard as protection :eek::eek:

    But you didnt keep it there long term ;) but lifted the full weight on the sump again to lower it :eek::eek:

    You still haven't convinced me its a good idea, but guess you have proved it may be ok done quickly :D

    Cheers Zoso - I think (but maybe only briefly ) :laughing:
     
  3. Zoso

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    I think Triumph have convinced me that jacking the bike up on the sump is fine......what I'm not convinced about is having the weight of the bike resting on the sump for a long time - changing a tyre - so the axle stands provide a longer term solution. The bike was also a lot more stable supported on both sides. Worked for me :)
     
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  4. KevinK

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    Sorry newbie from US.

    I recently had same issue when trying to install Triumph driving lights and needed to remove front wheel. I too was not comfortable jacking with pressure on the sump.

    Not promoting a product, just a solution. A guy here in the US produces custom "jack brackets" called Jack-be-quick. They remain on the bike, look like part of the frame and give you front and rear jack points. Instructions were spot-on and fit was perfect. He makes for Thunderbird with and with a cat.

    http://jack-be-quick.com/

    NOTE: You still need a fairly low profile jack.

    I can send photos tonight when I get home if you need to see them.

    PS for those superstitious people it also gave me a place to hang my "gremlin bell".
     
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  5. TEZ 217

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    Welcome in KevinK , yep seen the jack be quicks look like a good option for jacking either end.
     
  6. Zoso

    Zoso Member

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    I had a look at the Jack be Quick website previously but there are no images of the kit bolted on to a bike. I'd be interested to see what it looks like in place.

    cheers
     
  7. KevinK

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    Will try to post pictures tonight (Eastern US time) so you can see.
     
  8. KevinK

    KevinK Member

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    Walked out to parking garage at work.

    First, Triumphs rule today!
    Second, sorry for dirt in pics; live off gravel road and TBird did not have weekly bath yet.

    FrontBracketTop show how it uses Engine mount bolt.
    RearBracketTop show how it uses the Passenger board/peg mounting holes.

    Hope pictures help (not professional quality).

    FrontBracketTop (720x1280).jpg

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    FrontBracket (1280x720).jpg

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  9. TEZ 217

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    FRONT BRACKET
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    FRONT AND REAR JACK - BE - QUICK[​IMG]
    REAR BRACKET[​IMG]
     
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  10. Zoso

    Zoso Member

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    Thanks gents.......that looks pretty tidy :)
     
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  11. TEZ 217

    TEZ 217 Crème de la Crème

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    Sorry to give you the wrong impression Zoso But unlike KevinK's my pics were cut and pasted from internet, :confused:
    I dont have the lifting jack be quick's fitted but I reckon they definitely serve a purpose.
     
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  12. VABird

    VABird Well-Known Member

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    Just found this forum after years on the RAT forum & Thunderbird1600 forum.
    To be out in the open right away, I am Jack-Be-Quick. It's always good to see posative feedback on my products, whether cat delete elbows, handlebar spacers or lifting brackets. I'll attach some more pics of the JBQ installed.
    The HP (LT & Commander) & NC (TBird/Storm) fit 1.75" (45MM) higher in the frame than the STD model, virtually out of sight.
    I see that most of the members are from the UK. Most of the time, two kits can be shipped together a lot cheaper than two individuals, so if two owners live close enough, that would save you some.
    Look forward to being a part of the forum.
    Bob
    LT up front & rear (HP).JPG
    JBQ (HP) on LT - bottom view 1.jpg STD JBQ.jpg
     
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  13. Tim the gas

    Tim the gas New Member

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    I bought one 2 yrs ago and only just getting chance to fit it. I don’t think the original bolts for my rear foot boards are long enough do you happen to know what size bolts they would be?
     
  14. VABird

    VABird Well-Known Member

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    Did you get the black or the chromium bolts?
    Black ones started to rust, so were superseded by the chromium.
    If you have floor boards, you'll want all M10-1.25X50
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/222627190529
     
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    Tim the gas New Member

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    I’ll take a picture of everything I received later when I go to workshop if I can impose?
     
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    Tim the gas New Member

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    This is all that I received however a neighbour did unpack it while I was away and he swears it’s all that was there. No instructions apparently
     
  18. VABird

    VABird Well-Known Member

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    You apparently have an LT or Commander. That's all you need. The 40 MM chromium bolts will be (barely) adequate with the floor boards, but you'd be better with the 50 MM bolts there as well.
     
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  19. Tim the gas

    Tim the gas New Member

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    Thank you I will take your advice and fit 50mm probably hex key (Allen key) regards Tim
     
  20. Zoso

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