Street Twin Oil Light When At Full Right Lock

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by TomMarshall, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. TomMarshall

    TomMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    I've got a '16 plate Street Twin which runs like a dream, but find the oil light flicks on when it's at full right lock. I generally find this when I'm manoeuvring at very slow speeds/standstill, so it's in the last few mm of steering range.

    Wondered if anyone has experienced this and has a solution?

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom
     
  2. TomMarshall

    TomMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dozers,

    It had the recall done in November time last year with this being a fairly recent thing, so can't even pin it on them for playing with it at the time (annoyingly!)

    I had wondered if the sensor cable was marginally too short and turning it full lock triggers a false 'low oil' reading?

    T
     
  3. TomMarshall

    TomMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, Dozer, much appreciated!
     
  4. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    #4 Eldon, Jul 10, 2019
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    The fact there was a recall done and this problem being what it is could be linked, certainly appears potentially possible.
    Personally I would go back to who did the recall. Be polite with them and specify that you are in no way blaming them but could they look into it and enter into a warranty discussion with Triumph on your behalf to see how far you can get.
     
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  5. Retired Phil

    Retired Phil Well-Known Member

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    ;):triumph:Why be polite, just say WTF!
     
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  6. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    Try it but I know which one is more likely to give a favourable answer?
     
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  7. JaimeG

    JaimeG New Member

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    Hi Tom, I bought my 2016 Street Twin last year and I have the same problem when turning right.
    The oil light used to flick but now it's "ON" all the time. I think the previous owner spoiled the instrument connector due to the too tight wiring loom. (he did a mess trying to fix it, see pic)

    The dealer told me that the problem was that connector (they could'nt repair it) so I replaced it with a new one by my own.

    If you already had a recall, you can check this connector to see if there are loosen cables (or before they break them)

    In my case the oil light is still "ON" (Now the dealer is telling me that I need to buy a new dashboard ????) I don't trust them anymore. Oil pressure is OK, I change the oil and filter, and everything is working but I don't know what to do with the Oil light.

    instrument connector.JPG
     
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  8. Notso

    Notso Senior Member

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    My suggestion is a long shot, just in case it is the connection it is worth a try as it is quite simple, low cost and at least eliminates the connection. Try cleaning the plug under the speedo with dielectric spray (obv power disconnected) followed by silicone grease before reconnecting and a puff of ACF50 after.
     
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  9. TomMarshall

    TomMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    I must have put a new thread up elsewhere on the dealers section (I forget now) but after having the mechanics at Fowler’s in Bristol look at it at its annual service and first MOT, they called me back a week later saying that Triumph had very kindly offered to replace the head unit outright. Given this is a c.£700 part plus fitting, I bit their hand off and it solved the issue completely.

    Not sure if I got lucky or whether it’s something Triumph do if it’s a known issue but might be worth checking with the dealer?
     
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  10. TomMarshall

    TomMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    I must have put a new thread up elsewhere on the dealers section (I forget now) but after having the mechanics at Fowler’s in Bristol look at it at its annual service and first MOT, they called me back a week later saying that Triumph had very kindly offered to replace the head unit outright. Given this is a c.£700 part plus fitting, I bit their hand off and it solved the issue completely.

    Not sure if I got lucky or whether it’s something Triumph do if it’s a known issue but might be worth checking with the dealer?

    edit: just reread your post about the dealer. Might be I got lucky in that case
     
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  11. Eldon

    Eldon Elite Member

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    As in your case I also needed to use Triumph's after care for a warranty issue and found their customer service excellent.

    Quick resolution and no fuss; well done Triumph.
    Glad you're sorted.
     
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  12. Repooh

    Repooh Rarely Satisfied

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    Given the recall, which as I understand it was a little clip to hold cables was done close to three years after build I imagine the chaffing has worn the cables. My recall was done a year after my ST was made, 12 months later the loom had to be replaced due to random lights coming on at full lock. The full loom replacement took hours, fortunately it was in warranty
     
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  13. JaimeG

    JaimeG New Member

    Aug 14, 2020
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    I also found this:

    The headstock tidy (guide) situated behind the head stock on the left-hand side of the main frame is used to position the clutch cable and main harness, which in its original condition may allow the clutch cable to contact the main harnesssheath, potentially causing damage to the wiring within the main harness. If this condition occurs and remains undetected, it may lead to a loss of electrical power to various electrical circuits.

    CONSEQUENCE
    As a consequence, headlight or indicator lighting may malfunction or engine power could be lost without warning, increasing the risk of a crash.

    REMEDY
    Owners are advised to bring their motorcycles to a Triumph dealer to havethe original headstock tidy replaced with a new version free of charge (parts and labour).
     
  14. JaimeG

    JaimeG New Member

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    Hi, my recall was done also (previous owner) I was told by the dealer to change full loom because of the conector and It seemd crazy for me since it was easy to replace it.
    Now the connector it like new but the problem persists. I think the problem is on a different part of the wiring. Any idea? :sweat:

    Thanks in advance
     
  15. TomMarshall

    TomMarshall Well-Known Member

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    Might well be an issue inside the unit itself. That’s what mine was diagnosed as. My oil light was flickering on and off prior to the recall, then was on permanently about 4-6 weeks after that, at which point I got the annual service done and asked them to look at it.

    I fear for you if it is the head unit as they’re c£700 if I remember rightly.
     
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