Loosing The Will To Live

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by keith tookey, Jun 28, 2018.

  1. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Ok so yet another issue with the 06 Daytona 675
    Took the bike to work this evening a 5 min ride from home to work all was ok
    Got on the bike to come home
    Within 3 min the temp gage went right to the end the fan was going mental and the engine light came on
    I pulled over turned it all off and started again this time it struggled to start without me giving it some throttle same issue temp gage right up and engine light on
    I’ve disconnected the battery which is perfect as it’s always on a battery conditioner in the hope it might reset itself
    Not sure how much more I can take
    Thanks in advance
     
  2. stollydriver

    stollydriver Elite Member

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    Sounds like thermostat problem probably caused by this freak weather that we are having. Just a thought..
     
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  3. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    A bit odd though as it wasn’t that hot this evening and she rode all day Monday and Tuesday I’ve filled her up 4 times in 2 days
    Could fuel be a issue ??
     
  4. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    I will try that tomorrow so if the rad doesn’t get hot
    I should check the stat as in the thermostat?
     
  5. stollydriver

    stollydriver Elite Member

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    Fuel won't cause overheat which is what you are describing. Still think stat area to be investigated.
     
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  6. Oldyam

    Oldyam Grumpy Old Git

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    As said before a thermostat can fail anytime, if it was fuel related I doubt it would have heated up as fast.
     
  7. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Thanks to you all I will check all those
    And you can rest assure I won’t be asking how
    good old you tube for that
    It does bloody frustrate me though and I love her to bits look after clean and service her
    Again cheers
     
  8. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Thanks to you all I will check all those
    And you can rest assure I won’t be asking how
    good old you tube for that
    It does bloody frustrate me though and I love her to bits look after clean and service her
    Again cheers
     
  9. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Smilinjack
    When you say the thermostat is a easy fix do you mean that I can service that part or it’s easy to replace
    Sorry to be pain
    Yourself and dozer have been a great help from the start
     
  10. Thorcusmodee

    Thorcusmodee Well-Known Member

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    I understand your frustration, I am building a bike from a few boxes of bits. it can drive you mad at times. Help is here though, I agree with the other posters that have suggested a stuck thermostat. They can get a build up of deposits on them which stops them from opening, which causes the problem you have described. Don't despair, it's most likely a simple fix. Best of luck.
     
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  11. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

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    Also I can’t seem to find the thermostat on world of triumph parts Dora’s anyone have a link to it
    Many thanks
     
  12. Oldyam

    Oldyam Grumpy Old Git

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  13. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Your all diamonds
     
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  14. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    A quick update just spoke to the main dealership where I baught it to see if they had said stat
    Just cos I’m a impatient child
    He said he doesn’t think it’s the stat cos no coolant has been used I.e the coolant level hasn’t dropped he thinks it’s a temp sensor I can’t remember what one he said
    But I have ordered the new stat and seal and will change no matter what
    Just wondering what your thoughts are on that ?
     
  15. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Ok Brilliant I’ve stolen the infrared thermometer from work
    I’m gunna check all the levels this afternoon with the bike cold then going to run it while checking the rad temp so if the display temp goes racing up and the rad is cold or warm has to be the stat right
    New one is on order with the seal
    Cheers jack and all for your patience
     
  16. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

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    And also am I right in saying that if the rad does get very hot it’s not the stat and could be the sensor?
     
  17. Thorcusmodee

    Thorcusmodee Well-Known Member

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    Just as a sanity check there are 4 common things that can cause an overheat or look like an over heat - low coolant, faulty thermostat, faulty fan switch and faulty instrumentation. to find out which one you need to run some checks.
    1. if the radiator is cold but the engine is overheating it's almost certainly the thermostat. The stat switches the flow of water on and off. It stops water flow when the engine is cold so it gets to operating temperature quickly then regulates the temperature by turning flow through the radiator on and off. This is why it. important to check the radiator temperature as well as the engine temperature.
    2. Faulty fan switch, the switch is in thermal contact with the side of the radiator, it should switch the fan on at 96 degrees ie just before boiling point. It will usually only operate in heavy traffic where there is insufficient air travelling through the radiator to keep temperatures down. Mine has just failed, I tested it by removing it and putting it in a pan on the stove. A faulty fan will give the same symptoms, to check if it 's one or the other, disconnect the thermo switch wires and short them together with a piece of wire or paper clip. If the fan runs it's the switch faulty, if it doesn't it's the fan or possibly fuse.
    3. Faulty instrumentation. If your gauge is in the red yet there is not coolant boiling over then either the sender or the gauge is faulty. Only way to tell is with a DVM set to measure resistance, as the engine heats up the resistance will change.
    4. Coolant - easiest one to check - have a look in your expansion bottle, if it's low top it up - always us an anti freeze / water mix, if you use water only you will increase the likelihood of it freezing in winter. Hope that helps.
     
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  18. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    So a interesting update just started up perfect and ran on the drive for 10 mins she heated up and the rad heated up and at just over 100c (the rad) the fan kicked in baught the temp down then the fan stopped as it’s done it’s job no overheating not on the dash the fluid or the rad
    But Still have the check engine light on
    So are we thinking still a stat problem (maybe intermittent)
    Ive ordered the parts so might as well change it still
    All input is highly appreciated
     
  19. keith tookey

    keith tookey Well-Known Member

    Jan 24, 2018
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    Cool I’ve done 4 cycles now allowing to cool then running till hot all the time checking the rad fluid and engine temp
    The engine light has gone out and it’s not running hot as in the temp gage is fine the rad goes to about 105 then the fan kicks in coolant is all good
    Now I’m at a lost end
    Could it have just been a gremlin
     
  20. dilligaf

    dilligaf Guest

    Gremlins are little bastids :mad:
    They’ll hide away and reappear when you least expect them....little bastids :mad:
     
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