Which Ground Anchor... Rented Garage?

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by MikeyBobBlack, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    Hi all,

    We’re currently renting our current home...on a try before we buy in the area basis. So my choices security choices need to take into account that we’ll only be here for 2 years and that anything I do in the garage will most likely need to be removed.

    In readiness for the new bike arrival I have an Almax chain ordered but will need a ground anchor. The floor in the garage is concrete and I was thinking the most secure type of ground anchor is the Y anchor variant. Effectively you cut a hole in the floor and set the anchor flush into the ground, leaving two apertures for the chain to feed through.

    I figured the above would not only provide the best level of security but would make it easy to simply fill in the two holes with a little cement at the time of moving on.

    What’s your thoughts chaps, best idea or are there other anchors I ought to consider? I just figured if I install something that sits proud to the floor then come the day we move out I’m going to have a nightmare of a time removing the anchor!

    Thanks in advance for your advice.

    Mike.
     
  2. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    Cheers fella fella I thought as much.

    Thoughts on Almax V’s Pragmasis chains?
     
  3. Callumity

    Callumity Elite Member

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    Up and over door? Can be simply, cheaply and effectively closed with a steel strap across the door about 18” up onto two staples secured to the frame and padlocked each end. Mild steel angle iron works well and is cheap. Given the measurements a local ironworks could make it hinged at one end.
    It has the advantage of slowing the b*****s down and exposing them and their criminal intent to plain view before they flip the door and find the post........
     
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  4. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    That’s a good point... yes we have an electronically operated up and over door so it would make a great deal of sense to fortify that as it’s the only means of in or out with a bike.

    I also have motion activated cctv at the front so any movement and I’m alerted via my phone!
     
  5. Rich Bryce

    Rich Bryce Dead Eye Dick

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    If it's in a well secure garage that will deter the thieves then you could consider a bike tracker with motion sensor instead of an anchor, that way you'll have the added security when away from home.
     
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  6. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    I have considered a tracker but according to the chaps at Triumph there literally is no where to hide a tracker on the Bobber, or to fit an alarm for that matter.

    I do however have an alarm in the garage. Perhaps I’m going overboard spending £50-£70 on an anchor, £250-£300 on a chain/padlock etc!
     
  7. Rich Bryce

    Rich Bryce Dead Eye Dick

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    I wouldn't bother with an alarm. Pity a tracker can't be hidden.
     
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  8. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    I’ve not given up on the idea as yet...when I get the bike I’ll have a real good look around it before ruling it out for sure!
     
  9. Rich Bryce

    Rich Bryce Dead Eye Dick

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    We sell BikeTrac at our place. I'll try to remember to ask about the Bobber. Remind me if I forget.
     
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  10. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    Hi Rich,

    You actually quoted me a little while ago ;)

    Yes if you could see if they have managed to fit one to the Triumph Bobber I’d be really grateful :)
     
  11. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    Fair point... it’s actually £11,650 and closer to £13k once the options are added... so you’re 100% right!

    Thanks for the link... that’s actually the very review that got me thinking about the Almax. Still scary that as good as it is, it can be defeated in less than 50 seconds and that it’s still considered excellent! o_O
     
  12. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    Not at all... in fact I wish you were right on the price :joy:
     
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  13. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    It’s way too thin I’d say... especially in light of my 17 1/2 stone lump of a body :scream:
     
  14. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    It’s so sculpted and created such a line for the eye that anything thicker would look odd. Not only that the underside is an aluminium pan, that has a relatively thin piece of steel that runs through the middle of the seat that it mounts to. Hard to explain correctly... but if you see it it would become clear it’s a none starter. The tracker itself is pretty big, certainly bigger than I’d realised which also doesn’t help o_O
     
  15. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    I could be wrong but is that dog crapping out a pair of oven gloves?!
     
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  16. MikeyBobBlack

    MikeyBobBlack Member

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    Well I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong.

    In all honesty I know what you mean... in some photos it just doesn’t look right with someone on it.

    Conversely in all photos... you just don’t look right :joy:;)
     
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  17. Miguel

    Miguel New Member

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    Hi,

    I have been using a Pragmasis Torq ground anchor. I installed it by cutting the garage floor tiles to fit the exact size of the anchor. The only thing I don't like is that the paint of the buckle peeled in different point and after 3 years it rusted a little bit.

    I saw the Biketrac anchor at the MCN bike show a few weeks ago and they look compact and strong with a nice finish. Worth having a look. I think they were sold for £80
     
  18. XCaTel

    XCaTel Senior Member

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    Oxford Terraforce ground anchor would work well, kangoo through the concrete floor to the earth, dig a void in the earth, put an upturned flower pot around the anchor eyelet, fill hole with ready mix concrete, sink Terraforce with the top of the eyelet a cm below floor level. When it drys rip out the plastic flower pot. Make the flower pot big enough so you can get the chain through the eyelet. 2 years later fill the hole with ready mix concrete and lose the anchor! This guy is making a home made one and it is in the garden but the same principal applies.



    I did this in my back garden so I could use the lawnmower without hassle.
     
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  19. MICK64

    MICK64 Active Member

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    I dont think so.
     
  20. Pegscraper

    Pegscraper Elite Member

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    #20 Pegscraper, Sep 18, 2021
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    I put a ground anchor in my Sister's shed which consisted of an old railway fishplate, £10 from a scrapyard, concreted into the floor. The plate was about 18" long, 6" wide by 1" thick with two 11/2" holes either end. An 18" wide by 24" inch deep hole was dug and filled with concrete with one hole of the fishplate just above ground level. When she moved house the shed and anchor were left where they were. :joy: I'm fortunate to have an integral garage with multipoint locking up and over door, linked into the house alarm system. I also wired the external floodlights to come on when the alarm is tripped. Didn't prevent my XR getting nicked off the drive though, my bad! Security is feckin' useless if you don't use it! All you can do is make theft as difficult as possible so hopefully they look elsewhere.
     
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