Self Cancelling Indicator System

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  1. DesertRat

    DesertRat Member

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    I used the USB wire under the seat - it's switched and I'll never use that one for USB. I ran the extension cable into the headlamp housing - the right and left wires are exposed there - and connected with Positaps. And yes, the rubber inserts are critical. Finally realized it converts the switch from on/off to a momentary switch, i,e. push right to turn the right indicator on and again to turn it off. Pushing straight in on the switch, as you originally did to cancel, does nothing after the mod. Takes a bit of getting used to. Finally, I attached the module to the side of the battery box with a small piece of industrial velcro so I can easily remove it if needed. Oh, and the wiring colors for Triumph in the instructions are wrong on later model Bonnevilles. A wiring diagram for your bike helps. This is all for a '17 Bonnie so may be slightly different for other models.
     
  2. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    What wire did you use to extend it?

    Had a reply back from factory with some instructions in German and this guy mounted unit on to of radiator assembly
     
  3. DesertRat

    DesertRat Member

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    Are you asking about the extension cable? I bought it from A&J here in the States but believe it was made by STS. I didn't see anywhere on my Bonnie to mount the module around the radiator but you could also zip-tie it to the frame under the tank. Put far enough forward you might not need the extension, Make sure as stated earlier to mount it with the arrow pointing forward. Seems the cable exits the module from the wrong side.
     
  4. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    Here’s what I got back from STS
     

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  5. DesertRat

    DesertRat Member

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    I didn't have those German instructions but they would have saved me a lot of time searching the wiring diagrams. It is correct for the T100 as well. I don't know German but you can pretty much follow the photos and they mount the module without need of an extension cable. Not sure where they drew the 12v from but again the usb would work fine. It doesn't use much power so 18 gauge wire would probably work well. I used 16 gauge only because I had some on hand.
     
  6. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    Hi mate

    Wondering if you have started on your installation yet
    I too wanted the holidays out of the way plus I was considering fitting cruise control which obviously is the same area of the harness you connect to.
    Decided against that so now looking to get stared myself shortly
     
  7. Swood516

    Swood516 New Member

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    I was instructed (by Mark at STS) that you can punch a small hole in the middle of the foam to help with this - Not sure where you live, but I had the same issue (November install in the Northeast). However, since it is so cold in the Northeast, decided to wait until Summer before doing this. Heat/cold will greatly affect the durometer of these foam disks. Also, if the foam disks are too soft they might allow the signal switch to latch.
     
  8. Swood516

    Swood516 New Member

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    I finished my install and I'm working on super detailed instructions that will show step-by-step how I installed this on my 2016 T120. My install is completely hidden inside the bike and required a 36" extension. I used the power feed off the USB (yellow wire under the seat). Most of the connections are hidden behind the plastic plate in the headlight. Not a super easy install if you want it done right and also want it to be hidden.
     
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  9. DesertRat

    DesertRat Member

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    That sounds exactly like I installed mine. Wish I had your detailed instructions - they will be invaluable for those doing so in the future. Don't expect there would be any significant differences with the T100 and most other Triumphs with a single headlight.
     
  10. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    Received a couple of extension harnesses from Mark at STS for so thanks for that

    Going to have a go this weekend

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  11. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    #31 John T, Jan 29, 2018
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    Well that's it fitted after quite a bit of headscratching and swearing at times. Bloody pleased my Lad used to work on these things cos there's some awkward plugs and suchlike that a bit of knowledge with helps a lot
    Apologies I'm not much use at putting instructions together but here's a few observations
    The supplied crimp on bullet connectors I found very hard even with my decent crimping tool and in fact one snapped and another one didn't crimp on that well so ended up using a couple of standard crimps so be aware.
    Also one of the FOC extension harnesses kindly supplied also had a bad connector which threw me for a while
    Anyway I managed to locate the unit on the right hand side cable tied against one of the original components on the main frame tube (might have been the tilt switch) and then fed the wire in a comfortable U turn under the tube and this allowed the connection to the extension harness to be tucked into a nice recess behind the headstock. Only one extension was required to reach into the headlamp where the signal connections were made. This ran comfortably with the other cables entering from the left side.For the power I used some wire I had and ran this back to the USB supply under the seat (doubled up some multicore .22mm for this).
    The main harness of the bike runs along the main frame tube in a plastic enclosure and if brave enough you could probably connect there and save going into the headlight but the wiring is complex and compact (as is everything tucked away on these bikes !)
    Converting the handlebar switch to momentary seemed simple enough and just required the 2 smaller rubbers being inserted either side of the internal sliding part which is obvious from the bottom of the switch assembly
    Hoping to road test later today
     
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  12. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    Quick test ride to the garage a few left and right turns plus roundabouts
    So far VERY impressed turning left or right at junctions it cancels just after you straighten up just where you would cancel it yourself. 270 degree on roundabout seems to possibly cancel a smidge early but time will tell.stays on at low speed or stationary at junction as you would want. Tried leaving on when going straight and sure enough goes off after15 seconds
    Yup starting to reckon it was worth the cost and effort
     
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  13. John T

    John T Senior Member

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    Heres a review I found since



    Pretty much agree with his experience and will do whats suggested on turn switch
     
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  14. Jackb

    Jackb New Member

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    Many months past since last msg re self cancelling. I have recently bought a kit and also decided I need to extend the wiring . Any further help from you all who have completed will be very welcome .
     
  15. 100thmonkey

    100thmonkey Active Member

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    Harley manage to fit them standard, why cant Triumph get their act together its not 1987
     
  16. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Standard on the Tiger but I don't use them in case I get used to it as the Bonnie doesn't have them. :cool:
     
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  17. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Crème de la Crème

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    Think I'll send this to my pals who went to Belgium with me earlier this month. Every time I looked in the mirror, one or more of them, had left an indicator on after turning. It looked like I was being followed by a road repair crew there were so many flashing amber lights.:confused:
     
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  18. ElectrAbigail

    ElectrAbigail Someone to reMember

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    I am so glad to read this as a noobie on a bike.

    Last weekend I followed my friend in her car to a nice little terrace somewhere outside Lyon. Suddenly she pulls over... I'm like 'What's wrong?'
    And she says, 'I was gonna ask you, cause your indicator was on, and we thought something was wrong'

     :D:D:Doopsie...

    Happens to me all the time. Maybe I'll get myself this STS
     
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  19. Dodge74

    Dodge74 Active Member

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    Get a Harley dyna glide , they have self cancelling indicators fitted at the factory lol
     
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  20. ElectrAbigail

    ElectrAbigail Someone to reMember

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    Don't you think it's a bit cumbersome. :neutral:And expensive as well. To buy a Harley, remove the self cancelling indicators of it, and than assemble them to my Bonnie. How would I make them fit anyway?
     
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