Thruxton I like it blue

Discussion in 'Thruxton, Scrambler & Trident' started by dickydido, Feb 20, 2017.

  1. dickydido

    dickydido Senior Member

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    I love it when the exhaust pipes blue up on the top bend. Currently the left hand bend (whilst sat on the bike) is starting to go a nice bronze colour with hints of blue starting to appear....lovely.

    But disapointingly the right hand bend has hardly started to colour up at all........I've seen other comments on this Forum where other people have had this dicolouration in-balance.......the bikes not long had its 500 mile service so I am assuming (very dangerous I know) that the injection system was in balance and mixture spec was ok.

    Does anybody have any recommendations as to how I can promote the right side to bronze/blue up to even up the look?.......thought about gently running a blow lamp over the bend area of the right hand side to even up the discolouration.

    Are the down pipes double skinned to actually prevent dis-colouration?

    Cheers,

    dickydido IMG_1032.JPG IMG_1033.JPG
     
  2. Bonzo

    Bonzo Well-Known Member

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    My left is much bluerer(!) than the right.
     
  3. dickydido

    dickydido Senior Member

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    Hi Bonzo,

    Thanks for your feedback.

    I was just looking at Blade Triumph at Cheltenham's webpage, on their s/h bikes for sale page is a Thruxton 12 with exactly the same issue.......and others on this Forum have made exactly the same observation.....left blueing/bronzing while the right is virtually colour free.....

    ....this clearly is a generic effect and not just a few random events.

    I want both my headers to colour up......I love that look....at the moment it just looks odd.

    I have just sent a mail to the Factory Warranty Dept. outlining this situation inviting their views and explanation of why this is happening and asking how I can get both pipes colouring up evenly.

    Cheers,

    dickydido
     
  4. Bonzo

    Bonzo Well-Known Member

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    Look forward to reading about their response dickydido.

    I must say your LH isn't any where near as blue as mine - the RH like new (apart from a slightly unsightly rub mark from new).

    Ill bang a pic in next time I'm out & camera handed.
     
  5. dickydido

    dickydido Senior Member

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    Hi Bonzo,

    I suspect I'm a few miles behind you......I bought the bike in late November with only 540 miles on the clock.....and sadly it's mainly been in hibernation since then avoiding salt!......it's just nudging 800 mile now.....I got a good ride in last Monday......God!, I needed that, getting 'cabin fever'......roll on some decent riding weather.

    I'll share whatever feedback I get from the Factory.

    Cheers,

    dickydido
     
  6. Bonzo

    Bonzo Well-Known Member

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    Could you let me know the warranty dept email address please?

    I may do the same.
     
  7. dickydido

    dickydido Senior Member

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    Hi Bonzo,

    This is the address I use, I wrote last night to the Factory at 9pm and I had an acknowledgement and a case number back by 9:30pm!....

    [email protected]

    I always mark my mails with: FAO Pete

    Pete has helped me several times already and he seems to be right on the case.

    Perhaps if every member on here with the same issue wrote in the Factory we'd maybe get answers at a minimum or even a resolution at best.......it'd only take a minute to bang an email to them, I titled my mail as
    'Header discolouration'.....if everybody titled theirs the same they'd get the drift PDQ something was afoot!


    Cheers,

    dickydido
     
  8. dickydido

    dickydido Senior Member

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    #8 dickydido, Feb 22, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2017
    OK, here is the reply from Pete who works in the Warranty Dept. at the Factory:



    Dear Mr dickydido,

    Thank you for your email enquiry.

    This concern is not something that has been raised with the Factory, nor has there been any concern with any of our press fleet Thruxtons.

    The header pipes on this model are not double skinned, nor would we recommend using an outside influence to change the colouration of them, in time they will probably match each other.

    Thank you once more for your email, we hope you will continue to enjoy riding your Thruxton.

    Best regards
    Peter Clarke



    So, it appears we on this Forum are the only folk who have noticed this colouration inbalance!........

    Guys, if you have this same situation and you are not happy about it please take the time to tell the Factory, just drop them a quick email, email address is shown in the post above this one.......

    ....probably no one has complained because nobody reporting on the test fleet has paid their own hard earned cash for the bikes they are thrashing around on.......indeed the colour has no impact on performance but for me, it has a big impact on pride and satisfaction of ownership.......and like you, I paid a lot of money to get that so I'd like it right.

    I notice there was no response to my request to know why there are different colours......if the pipes are not double skinned the difference in header pipe colouration is more worrying.......a single skin pipe will show up different cylinder temperatures much quicker and that results from different or inbalanced mixture burning in each cylinder......usually a weaker mixture burns hotter.....too weak and it leads to holes in pistons!!!.....eeek!

    Cheers,

    dickydido
     
  9. Vansflyer

    Vansflyer Member

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    Judging by the "spy shots" the test bikes are that covered in crap you can't see the headers.... however the QC is v good on the bikes so maybe it's a certain condition making them different colours?
     
  10. Bonzo

    Bonzo Well-Known Member

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    Mr dickydido,

    As promised, pics of my blueing/non blueing headers

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    My drive isn't in as good nick as yours :)

    ..and maybe a couple of more convincing shots

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  11. dickydido

    dickydido Senior Member

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    Hi Bonzo,

    ....thanks for the pics.......you can clearly see the left to right differential in colouring......again left more coloured that the right.

    I look thro' You Tube for Thruxton tests........and in all of them that shows left and right views of the bikes the left side exhausts are ALWAYS more coloured up than the right......this cannot be a coincidence, there has got to be a reason for this trend, too many examples to just be an odd one off....got to be some kind of set up characteristic.

    I encourage everybody on the Forum with the same variation in exhaust colouration to drop a line to Pete in the Warranty Dept.....you can find the email address in an earlier thread on this post.........and tell him there is an issue with your bike....
    .......with enough input from disgruntled owners they gotta look into it......the bike goes great but the variation worries me 'cus more colour = hotter running.......plus I want both sides looking equally blued.

    Thank you to everybody for their support with this.

    Cheers,

    dickydido
     
  12. Bonzo

    Bonzo Well-Known Member

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    I'll pop Pete an email over the weekend & report back mate.
     
  13. Bonzo

    Bonzo Well-Known Member

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    Email (& pics) sent last Sunday (5th), not heard a dicky bird yet.
     
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  14. Kiwidave4

    Kiwidave4 Well-Known Member

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    This thread seems to have ended with no conclusion drawn. My Standard now has about 1800km on it and the left hand pipe is blue at the top (horizontal) part and straw coloured all the way around the top bend. The right hand one is still chrome coloured apart from some marks in the plating that were there from new.

    My dealer is some distance away but I had to go to town by train today so took the opportunity to drop in and discuss the matter and they suggested I take the bike in next week and they will run the diagnostic machine to check mixture/throttle body balance. They did not seem to be aware of a problem with Thruxtons, - and they did the 800km service at which time there was noticeable 'browning' of the left hand pipe.

    I am not too bothered about the discolouration, it is a 'patina' I guess, but I am concerned that the two cylinders seem to be running at different temperatures, and that the patina is only on one side!

    Do we just accept that this is a peculiarity of the Triumph twin?
     
  15. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    On the previous 865cc Bonnys bluing of header pipes was a commonly discussed topic and the general consensus of opinion was that it was caused by the AI (air injection system) which under specific running conditions (low or no throttle opening) injects fresh air into the head aft of the exhaust valve to burn any unburnt fuel - as a result this 'super heats' the exhaust downpipes.

    This system on the 865 Bonnys had AI injectors on both cylinders and both pipes would go equally blue.

    This blueing of one header only makes me wonder whether on the newer range of Bonnys - 900 and 1200 - the AI system only works on one cylinder ????
     
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