Rider Training v's Performance Parts?

Discussion in 'Triumph General Discussion' started by Graham Peters, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Graham Peters

    Graham Peters Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure we've all seen bike owners who have bought the latest top spec bike and then put all the available go-fast bits on it only to ride it either poorly or at a pedestrian pace.

    Now I understand that spending money on a bike and tinkering in the garage can be good fun and a really interesting hobby. And why not? People are entitled to spend their money on whatever they want, right? To be honest I have an old Harley that I have buried many dollars into, it keeps me off the streets and stops me spending money on bad women and grog!

    However if the goal is to go fast down a favorite stretch of road or round a race track is one better off spending the money on rider training or performance parts?
     
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  2. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    Rider training for me every time. Todays sports bikes are usually so much faster than their riders even in std.trim that imo improving the rider is the only way to go.
     
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  3. Sprinter

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  4. crispey

    crispey crispey creme de la creme

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    Rider training! Those go faster parts will be around for ages but one misjudged corner will render them useless!
     
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  5. Graham Peters

    Graham Peters Well-Known Member

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    Good video jtd!
     
  6. steve lovatt

    steve lovatt Something else

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    Rider training and experience every time.
    Reminds me of a story the manager of my local Triumph dealer told me. His mate was over from Ireland and he let him take out a Bonneville demonstrator for a few hours. Pretty soon a bunch of power rangers on some serious sports bikes buzzed up behind him and blasted past - up for a bit of fun he took them on. By the third corner he'd gone past the lot of them and left them for dead. Turns out he was a former road racer - but I would have loved to see the look on the other riders faces as they failed to catch the old Bonnie!
     
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  7. tcbandituk

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    Rider Training.

    If you want to go fast, go on the track with some ex racers, then you'll realise how slow you really are.:D
     
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  8. pasher

    pasher Well-Known Member

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    There's a training centre near me and was chatting with them not so long back. Told them that I'd been riding for nearly 50 years, all self taught, as it was back then, am still here, so must be doing something right (!!), but still sometimes found myself 'in situations' wondering how it had happened!!
    They recommended a few hours 'one to one' with one of their instructors so that he can watch my riding and make recommendations etc. They said it'll be well worth it and I'll make better progress, use less fuel and enjoy the ride more.
    Am going for it when the weather warms up.
     
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  9. R_1000

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    Rider Training. Learning your limitations is more important than that of the bikes'. This is because as "Biglad" said.... (Todays sports bikes are usually so much faster than their riders even in std.trim)

    I can't speak for everyone but me.....I will never be in a position to match or use the full potential of a high power motorbike. Instead with rider training I will use the bike to my full potential in a safe manner and enjoy/grin every moment of the ride.

    Having said the above I still spend money on making the bike more comfortable and handling such as suspension upgrades. Then blink blink bits to make her look pretty (who wouldn't want their girl to look pretty ;-)). Then some more on things like Quickshifter because I am lazy or maybe just an overgrown child who like fun bits :)

    All the best buddy
     
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  10. desertspeedy

    desertspeedy Senior Member

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    I too am self taught, riding trail bikes starting at age 12. Rider training to learn my limits made complete sense. Stateside, Keith Code's books have been a God send for me. I am now 62 and vision / depth perception add to the usual challenges of flexibility and core strength as I age. Fast bits are great if applied within the bounds of my skill set and I am certainly going to have this suspension cherry to my weight and skill level. I find that tucking in behind a skilled rider teaches me loads about myself and how I approach and exit various corners.
     
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  11. thebiglad

    thebiglad Old fart, still riding !

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    That was very well found mate - proves the point about training surely ?
     
  12. Dodge74

    Dodge74 Active Member

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    I did the Californian super bike school several years ago , it's expensive but well worth it and you'll learn also that the best addition to your bike you can make to improve it is simply getting the suspension set up properly and putting really good tyres on . I'm always amazed at the amount of sports bikes being ridden around dripping in expensive accessories , with shit tyres on which are showing obvious signs of abnormal wear indicating the suspension is also badly set up or in need of a service . I used to be a racer and a race school instructor after that but I owe a lot to the Californian super bike school . Also consider Rospa training for the road as well
     
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