Bike Service - Advice Please

Discussion in 'Speed Triple' started by R_1000, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. R_1000

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    Hi All

    I recently purchased a 2011 Triumph Speed Triple. The bike came with a full Triumph service history and last service done 4 months ago and book stamped. I usually prefer to do the servicing myself and the bike is not under warranty. I am thinking of doing all the service going forward and keep a record of everything + bills in a good order with mileage recording etc instead to taking it to the dealer which will cost me and arm n a leg :(. Your thoughts are much appreciated.

    Also I am going to purchase the dealer mode tool which will allow me to reset the service indicators.

    http://dealertoolcouk.ipage.com/default.htm

    On another note (Please see picture with red circle): I have a similar wire going through the connectors on my bike too. Seems like some sort of block to disable something. Can anyone kindly shed some light on this please. I didn't try removing that single wire to find something the hard way. Thought I would ask you people 1st ;)

    Thanking you all kindly

    What is this wire.jpg
     
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  2. Col_C

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    Yes, I intend doing my own servicing once the warranty expires. IMO a bike serviced by a caring owner that knows what he's doing is preferable to sometimes shoddy dealer servicing. However if you trade in you might be offered slightly less than with full dealer service history. As long as you keep the bike for a while you're going to offset that by what you've saved in servicing costs.
    As an alternative to the DealerTool you can also reset the service indicator using the free software TuneECU provided it's loaded on an Android smart phone or tablet and connected via bluetooth.

    The connector is where the optional Triumph/Datatool alarm is fitted (in place of what's presently there), if you remove that bridge connector the bike won't start.
     
  3. MrOrange

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    Bought my KTM Enduro with no dealer history, but I did get a folder full of receipts for oil, filters, chains, etc, and a jotter recording all the service work done.

    Happier to receive this with a bike, than to get a book with some stamps in it, shows last owner looked after the bike and knew what they were doing.

    I do the same with my bikes, whenever I buy anything for the bikes, receipt goes in the folder and will pass this on when I come to sell. Only ever took my SV650 back once, for 600 mile service, all rest was done at home and I always felt happier, I knew it had been done properly by myself.
     
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  4. R_1000

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    Col n Orange. ...thank you so much on your prompt response. I was waiting to hear from you before proceeding with the dealer tool purchase.

    I have always felt happier looking after my bikes. I double check n triple check to ensure everything is as it should be. I'll proceed with the servicing myself :).

    For the big 12,000 mile service for valve clearance I might give it to a dealer. God knows how much they are going to slap me with. Anyways I don't have to worry about it till next year ;-)

    I'll try download the TuneEcu on my android. Let's see what she pops up with :)
     
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  5. MrOrange

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    Will agree with the valve clearance job, maybe best let the triumph stealer or local independent do that. Done loads of cars, but never attempted it on a bike yet. Easy access on the America, so think I'll be doing this one myself.

    But everything else on a bike is easily do 'able.
     
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  6. R_1000

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    ^^
    Valve clearance will be done through a genuine bike mechanic I know. He has his own garage n VAT registered which will enable him to officially stamp the book. And his prices are nowhere near the triumph stealers; -)
     
  7. Col_C

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    You might consider checking the valve clearances yourself first, only then if they're out of spec may be get the dealer to do it. Last winter I checked the valves on the wife's 675, they were in tolerance so job done! It's no big deal going as far as checking them, just gets a bit more scary if they need changing as you're then in to removing the cam shafts. Checking yourself has the added bonus of knowing for sure what the actual gaps for each valve are, then when they next need checking you can see if there is a trend of wear. Also good information to pass on when you sell.
     
  8. R_1000

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    Eeeeek.....I am very confident in maintaining the biken doing oil service, changing clutch, flushing coolant, changing chain n sprocket etc BUT not so sure if I have the abilities to check valve clearance :-(. I do have the haynes manual still. .....I don't know Col!!!!! I'm not sure if I have it in me :-(. But I would love to learn.....I'll have a read on the manual n see what's involved. I have a decent collection of tools. So on that font I'm good.
     
  9. t552

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    on a speed I recommend you look at the rear stub axle and linkages.
    These are known for their lack of lubrication and really needs doing on time rather than mileage basis.
    They can be costly to renovate. deffo a case of preventative maintenance.
    With the right tools a straightforward job, without a right pain
     
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  10. R_1000

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    Thanks t552. Am I looking at the right video for this maintenance. Many thanks :)

     
  11. Col_C

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    I'm not looking to persuade anybody to do something they're not comfortable with :):eek:, but if you're happy changing the air filter and plugs (so you've got the tank off), then you're half way there! :)
    A few more bolts removes the cam cover, you then just rotate the engine (in gear, by the back wheel) and see what size feeler gauges you can get under the cam lobes. It's not rocket science and potentially saves you wasting a few hundred quid.
    Admittedly if you then find them out of spec (usually the gap has closed), then I'd most likely put the cover back on and take it to a dealer. At least then you KNOW they need doing.
    Perhaps somebody can advise the going rate, I'm guessing we're talking about £200 to check and probably another £100 or so if they need changing?
     
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    +1 on what t552 says, good advice!
    In particular the eccentric for chain adjustment is well known to seize up, although I think it does depend a lot on how much wet weather the bike sees.
    I've now had 3 Hinckley Triumphs with the eccentric adjuster over about 15 years, only had one that came close to being a problem.
    Suspension bushes are even easier to strip and re-grease and worth doing every so often.
     
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    I shall have a read to see if my little brain can handle all that data ;). Seriously guys. ..thanks a million for the support n confidence :)
     
  14. R_1000

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    For the grin factor my s3 is giving me it's only fair I put my time and effort to keep her in top shape. This Friday will be my 1st proper blast (through the fast countryside that I always use my Gixxer 1000 K6 on). I will be to understand the bike a lot better as I know the road well.

    I will be going through everything you guys have mentioned to ensure she is in pristine condition. No stones will be left unturned. I never cut corners hence it usually takes a lot longer for me to do everything on the bike as I take my time n do everything in a methodical manner.
     
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  15. darkman

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    You should really try using all the road and cutting corners :D
     
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    google trimoto in Greenwich, I've heard loads of good things about them, cost and service wise
     
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    Or if you want to go a little farther Clive Wood. With Clive you can watch what he does and learn if that's your thing and you are interested.
     
  18. R_1000

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    Thanks a million t552. I'm all for learning. If someone could show me the right way without me having to learn the hard way would be best ideal solution. I'll look him up n save his details.
     
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  19. Yorkshireman

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    Think yourself lucky you're not trying to do the valve clearances on a VFR vtec
    Cams out, stop plates in, cams in, measure gaps, cams out, change shims, cams in, measure, cams out stop plates out, cams in. Oh, and that's four camsahfts and two cam chain tensioners every time. Make no wonder you see so many vtecs for sale with just under 16,000 on the clock. Seriously tho just read your sig and you'll be fine.
     
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  20. t552

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    #20 t552, Sep 20, 2016
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    No problem.
    For early Triumphs Clive does maintenance courses showing full engine strip and sprag replacement. These prove very popular. And a great excuse for a weekend away talking bikes as we all go up the pub when the course is over.
    Some have done the course multiple times just because they had such a good time lol.
    Btw his no is 07752477738
    He is easily found on google "clive wood triumph".
    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=clive+w00d+triumph
     
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